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Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #15
Quote from: bondocougar


2) The tranny column shift is very tough to move for some reason

the actual assembly, or the lever itself,?the lever is rather easy, need a punch and a hammer, but you just gotta position it where the pin will come all the way through

when i converted to floor shift, i left all the linkages in tach and made sure they were locked in place, pulled the shifter and one the linkage that runs to the transmission, and havnt had any problems
It's Gumby's fault.

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #16
hey Cougars2go, I have that same engine hoist. Did you pull the front clip off because of the short reach of the hoist or were you just redoing the front? How easy is the bumper to remove and reinstall?

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #17
Quote from: whitebeastxr7
hey Cougars2go, I have that same engine hoist. Did you pull the front clip off because of the short reach of the hoist or were you just redoing the front? How easy is the bumper to remove and reinstall?


That hoist belongs to BondoCougar and I am not sure why he pulled the front off but my guess would be easier reach with the lift and to prevent the possibility of damage to the front panel and bumper with all the activity around the engine bay.  It also allows for easier human arm reach, not just hoist reach.

By the way, the bumper and front panel are easy to remove.


Quote from: bondocougar
The tranny column shift is very tough to move for some reason

Joe,
Did you find those bolts and put them in?  Remember, I left it hanging because we couldn't find the bolts.  I wonder if those linkages are run EXACTLY the same way they were before.  Do you have a chiltons or something that shows a line drawing of how the linkage is supposed to go?  I mean down to the detail with which side of stuff the metal bars go on and that sort of thing.
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Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #18
Quote from: whitebeastxr7
Did you pull the front clip off because of the short reach of the hoist or were you just redoing the front? How easy is the bumper to remove and reinstall?


I used the 2nd hole from the end  (2k pounds) , but even if I used the first, I think I still would have taken off the front.  That lift doesn't seem like it gives you enough clearance.  Plus I wish the front wheels swiveled.

I pulled the bumper cover & front cowl all at once.  Hardest part is the bolts securing the fenders to the front.  Then pull the headlites as there are a few bolts under there.  Then there are a few on the bottom of the bumper cover.  Here are some shots:



jcassity - Thanks :bowdown: , I'll do the distrib alignment tomorrow using the spark plug hole.  The mucked wires look like they are related to the cluster temp & oil gauges, doesn't look too bad & hope to get it done tomorrow.

The column shifter is just a B&$%  :wtf: to move, and when it does  clicks, it doesn't seem to move the right amount to align with the PRND, even loosening the cluster white clamp thats on the column to match a given gear.  I have looked at the books & it seems to be put together right, but somethings wrong.  One thing is I used an 87 linkage piece instead of the original, so I'm gonna try putting the original back in - and booger-up another one of those stupid plastic tranny bushings getting the existing one out!  :disappoin

The other weird thing is normally you pull the column lever toward you when gears are shifted, and it has a natural spring tension to pull back away, but that springyness is gone.  Something may be broke in the column?

All I got to say is to you guys that have done all this before is that you have been elevated to Car Gods in my eyes.  There are so many bloody details it boggles my mind  :wtf:


V6->V8HO 88 LS
5.0L V8 87 XR7

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #19
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All I got to say is to you guys that have done all this before is that you have been elevated to Car Gods in my eyes. There are so many bloody details it boggles my mind


It gets a lot easier with experience..... But yea, some times on the job training sucks..

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #20
yeah,, id take the column covers off and hunt down why the shifter does not spring back. 
personally, id would have left the tranny in,, its easy to get the flywheel to torque converter bolts to line back up and still be able to manipulate the motor mounts and alignment pins on the bell housing.

removal
you put a jack stand under the tranny
remove tranny covers and flywheel/converterbolts/starter / bellhousing bolts/harnesses/ bla, bla, bla, bla ect
remove the engine
reinstall the top two bellhousing bolts part way screwed in
lay a long pipe under bellhousing bolts that will also reach out to the frame on each side just aft of the strut towers
lower tranny on this new support support
remove jack

install
jack tranny all the way up till it hits the floor
remove pipe support
lower engine
align flywheel to torque converter as well as alignment dowels
add converter / flywheel nuts
add bell housing bolts
lower engine with the entire motor mount assy already on engine


you can actually see this method in a pic somewhere in the haynes manual.  this way you never really mess with the tranny and the linkages ,if it aint broke dont fix it kind of approach.

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #21
my linkage isn't lined up right, there's a part on the linkage where you can loosen a nut and move the column shifter separate from the tranny shift. I haven't had time to adjust it, but I think basically you put the tranny in a certain gear, then the column shifter in the same gear, then tighten the nut up

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #22
I never could see how you access those bell housing bolts with the engine & firewall in the way... :dunno:

 But I didn't have to worry about it, as my old transmission had internal fluid leaks  :mad: that would leak about a couple cups of fluid so that had to be fixed.  So I pulled everything!!

Got the rewiring done, & for the first time in months the car is now powered.  Even ran the starter (ignition coil disconnected) to hear how the engine turned over.  Did the distibutor alignment, it definitely blows alot of air out of theat plug hole!

Tested out the fuel lines & they are holding pressure... Still have that linkage problem, the tranny gear level is in a different position than the old one (I posted a sketch in the drivetrain section)

Still have to ground the O2 sensors & the engine before putting on the upper manifold, then bolt the exhaust back on, and then I'll have to grow some gonads before I'll have the guts to turn the key with the ignition coil connected...



V6->V8HO 88 LS
5.0L V8 87 XR7

Re: Tips before install & 1st Start

Reply #23
dont forget that if your column indicator does not agree with your shifter, you can move the white plastic colar on the column to manipulate the red indicator.
you have to take the lower cover off ot see it.  it has a cable going to it and runs up to the prnd21.