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User Rides / Re: '87 Mustang
Glad to see some progress from your neck of the woods bud.

As for the 6r80. They fit. Stuffers crossmember and such. People doing the coyote 6r80 swap alot on foxes now.

I really wanna coyote 6r80 91lsc. Like bad.
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
Awesome! Can't wait to see how it turns out with the terminator x setup.

I always hated that about "classic car" insurance. Sure we'll insure your car but you can only put 3 miles on it a month and its going to be $1000 for 6 months. State farms got my turd covered.

The lsc idea is a ways down the road and it would be just a nice cruiser. Not a race car like the freedom chicken. But the coyote would put down good numbers stock, be reliable and get great mileage it would be more for my lady than it would be for me.
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
I started off with a chiltons book until I found this forum in 04. I'm young but old enough to know the way of the service manual too lol.

I agree parts for these are rare and expensive. And I'm a certainly a glutton for punishment. When the bird gets closer to the finish line I would like to c00ch up a later year Mark VII and build it. A little more modern, and not as wild. Coyote, 6r80 keep all the amenities AC cruise air ride ECT just make a very nice cruiser out of it. But knowing my automotive A.D.D. it won't be that simple.

My k member came as a kit with coilovers, a arms and all that. I had to swap the arms out because I ordered the wrong ones. They have forward offset, zero offset and reverse offset configurations. The k member itself changes the geometry of the front suspension right off the bat by moving the wheels forward 3/4 of an inch if I remember correctly Maximum Motorsports has the info on their site. I ordered the forward offset control arms initially. That was a dummy mistake. And also 10 years ago to boot. I didn't know that they would move the wheels 1 1/2" forward in the well at that time. Fast forward to this car that I have now, I put them on it and thought "that doesn't look right". Some digging on the internet and found out I'm an idiot. So ordered the reverse offset control arms from MM and it put the wheels back in the factory location. Lesson learned.

If you want the wheel in the factory position get reverse offset control arms if you go the Maximum motorsports route.

I have the Maximum Motorsports steering shaft for a foxbody mustang.

Short of a torque arm and rear control arms my car is pretty much a complete MM suspension car. And those 2 things are on the list eventually to make it a full MM car.
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
I 100% agree that you have more pride in something you build yourself. Especially if its a car the off the beaten path. One you actually have to research the parts you put on it and most of the time have to modify a little bit to get to work.

I had to shim my k-member 1/2" down from the rails because the lower mount on the k-member interfered with the subframe and a spacer fixed it up. Had to space the engine up 1/2" to make up the difference so I wouldnt have some gnarly driveline angles
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User Rides / Re: Starting fresh
Had the old girl on the rollers today... But the dyno didn't like my car. They couldnt get a clean rpm signal without catching some sort of interference. Its a new place in town and I'm not 100% sure they knew what they were doing. But I tried.
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
The MM k member is set up for mustang mounts and I just stuck with them. I couldn't really speak on the lsc stuff. I am running a stock pan right now, but want to upgrade to a canton or something a bit better later on. And with the MM k-member there is no provisions for regular coil springs so you'll have to go coil over. I also had to shim the k-member 1/2" at the frame rails to fit correctly so in turn had to shim the engine up at the motor mounts 1/2"

Thats good that you got the spinning figured out. Mine hasn't spun since I got rid of the old nitto 555's which is nice but also a letdown at the same time when I'm trying to show off.

The cowl isn't horrible. It's definitely and obstacle but after the first few drives I got used to it but with the high rise and nitrous plate and air cleaner a 3" wouldnt have been enough so I kind of screwed myself because the whole aircleaner is above the fender line lol

Ive never had an angry purist approach me but if I did I would probably shake his/her hand and ask him/her where his/her car was and if he wanted to race haha
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
Seeing around the 5" is a challenge. I'm used to it now. I make some pretty wide right turns if I'm unfamiliar with the area.

As for getting an oil pan off, your odds may be better but I'm willing to bet you're going to have to lift the engine up still to clear the oil pump. But it would be feasible to remove the pan a boat load easier than with the factory k member
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
Thanks man! I wanted an all purpose street car. Something I could take down the strip and go fast, something that would could chase some cones down in some scca stuff eventually.

The k-member is a granatelli piece which is a ripoff of the maximum motorsports design. When it shipped to me it was 85# coil overs included the factory piece is like 140# without springs.

The fitech was nice while it lasted. But when I started having issues the part that made me jump ship is the fact I called tech support every day for 2 weeks and got an answer 3 times.

The holley experts will be a big help. And I think its going to be easier than you think. Have no fear it can always be put back to stock.
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
My build isn't radical, but she is a bit rowdy for a street car  :toothless:

The stock cam or street strip choice would be ok for you then. Its pretty much determined by how much vacuum it pulls to get a generic tune set.

My single wideband is in the passenger side header that part doesn't matter

The tuning is what I like about it. Trying to get someone to tune the ecu from a 30+ year old car is starting to become a lost art
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
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Thanks for the information Clayton. That video will help a lot. I've done wiring on this car forever it seems. Changing from the 4cyl to the 5.0, removing the Teves brakes, wiring to the package tray I don't need and interior wiring on the latest remodel. I'll give Holley a call and talk to their resident expert and see about ordering it. Want to make sure I get everything I need. From what I've read the handheld can only go so far but you need a laptop for some adjustments. Looks like guys have had problems with the cam selection feature and timing. Did you run into the same problem?

You're welcome!

I have had no issues with my unit. There are some minor tweaks that need to be made with a laptop but the majority of the tune done with the Wizard. I will most likely have someone dyno tune it later on down the road when I get the rest of my nitrous system done just because that is unfamiliar territory for me all the way around and I want it right.

The cam choice I made was the street strip and that is for the TFS-2 cam and it seems to be holding its own fairly well since it pulls about 10-11 lbs at idle

The only issue I've had is something that just needs to be dialed in and that's the decel fuel cut off, when it sees more than a 200rpm drop it cuts fuel and it wigs out and goes lean for a moment and stumbles but will usually pick itself back up. I've only had it stall a couple times because of it and I kind of deserved it doing dumb stuff. Hitting the limiter in 1st and pushing in the clutch and coasting kind of dumb stuff. So going from a 7k redline to idle really quickly kind of wigs it out
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Engine Tech / Re: Holley Terminator X
From what I've read its designed to be plug and play and has the same 3.5" display that comes with the sniper. If it has the same setup wizard as the sniper its a piece of cake to set up. The only thing I had to wire for the unit I've got was a 12v+ and a ground straight to the battery, a 12v key on and crank wire and a wire to the fuel pump positive (and it already was ran through a relay)

The great thing about holley products is the plethora of tech articles, install videos and support.

https://lmr.com/item/HLY-550937F/mustang-fox-body-holley-terminator-x-efi-kit-87-93?gclid=CjwKCAjwkJj6BRA-EiwA0ZVPVj_lzZrMnSj8hiXBtjm0oVhmWCSVAqYtjfIk-X3iUwxI9zt-L7jm8hoCJlwQAvD_BwE


Heres an install video on a mustang thats pretty close to the same steps I had to take with my sniper unit. There are a few differences but  close
https://youtu.be/ld2yUFY_dp0