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Title: NEGATIVE for 84 Fila
Post by: gumby on June 30, 2007, 12:07:21 PM
Fila, heres a couple notes that may help your next sale adventure
- callin someone names and tellin them how they should be buildin thier own car are not usually good ways to convince someone to agree with you.
- repeatedly stating that youre "not tryin to be a dick," doesnt mean you arent acting like one.
- lies, lack of communication, and avoidance are not good seller tactics.

for everyone else, this is how my deal with Fila has gone down.
i requested a full lock set w/keys from the car that Fila was parting out. after being put off in the thread w/o sufficient explanation, i contacted him thru IMs to find out what the problem was. i was told that the locks were too much of a PITA to remove and that i was ignorant for wanting to put used locks in my car.
personally i thought $25 for 30mins worth of work would be a good deal for him, especially considering he was already out there workin on the car. so after explainin my position on the locks, why i wanted what i wanted, and how to remove the locks, a deal was finally agreed upon. against my better judgment i decided to go ahead and continue workin with him.

so far, ive tried to keep the workings of the deal between Fila and myself, but Brian is workin with Fila on the car. Fila continually pulls Brian into the middle. after several "tomorrow" promises for pics of locks that are pulled, Fila has now been avoiding my PMs. the last PM i sent to him, got a reply back from Brian.

as it sits right now, Brian states that the lock set is not complete(door cylinders missing), but that he has the ignition and trunk cylinders sittin there with the glove box handle. i jus got an IM from Fila stating that the lockset is complete, but the ignition and trunk cylinders are not pulled from the larger components(steering column and trunk lid). complete opposite accounts on the status of the locks.....

today when i asked Fila for a workin time frame to get the locks all together and get some pics, the reply was "next time i go to Brians," and "maybe this weekend, i dunno." all the while i watch him peddle other parts of the car on the board that havent been claimed by anyone yet. what about the parts that HAVE been claimed??

im not layin ANY of the blame on Brian, i have only included him in this post to fill in the gaps.
the car was Filas purchase to part out. the thread i replied to and the deal i set up were both with Fila. at this point, im not sure if i will ever get the locks at all since ive been informed the shell is already gone, let alone ever be satisfied with the way this deal has worked out. im not sayin no one should ever buy anything from Fila ever again either, he is only 18 afterall. at 18yo i was very self centered and everyone else in the world came second to what was important for me as well. you can be assured, however, i will think twice before i ever do.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on June 30, 2007, 12:14:40 PM
Another LONG misunderstanding.
At the beginning I didn't wana pull any of them because I was told it was hard. Brian showed me otherwise.

When I said tomorow was then I thought I would be over to get the locks pulled. The doors were ulled and removed from the car. As to their location I'm usure as to where I put them. There is ALOT of parts layin around from the TC and 2 door locks can get  lost easy.  The trunk, ignition and glove box are still in their respective places  where they are susposed to be. 

I said from day one I didn't wana pull these locks and I didn't think it was worth the trouble. I don't have a steady way to get the parts as of now so when I said next time I go over I'll look, it's what I ment.

If you still want the locks great, I'll find them next time I go over. If you don't then they are trash and I'll keep tye keys to remember my first TC

And on my last note on avoiding my PM's, I talked to him/you on AIM and I worked most of the day yesterday on my rear end and the day before that on trying to get my car running again. I'm not perfect parts seller I admit.


EDIT!!!!
I gave him a call and we worked this out as I understand. I was was in the wrong by saying tomorow as I should have said as soon as I can. I fell that we are on the track again and anything said above may or may not be taken to be used as litteraly.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: stuntmannick on June 30, 2007, 12:35:08 PM
You lost car doors?  You have a hard time pulling locks?  Wow>.<
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on June 30, 2007, 12:40:34 PM
No, the doors went with the car. I pulled the lock cylinders out and set them aside. I just don't know were aside is as there is litteraly a whole car minus the shell worth of parts to look through
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: gumby on June 30, 2007, 12:47:52 PM
after talkin on the phone with Fila, i heard all the reasons "tomorrow" didnt work for out each time it didnt work out. i hope that i have impressed upon him that even if you cant get the pics you promised, the buyer expects some form of communication from you on the day that you told them.

he did apologize for the name callin as well.

hopefully this sale will work itself out when he has more time to deal with it.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on June 30, 2007, 12:50:16 PM
true dat man. I'll be in touch as soon as I have something new to tell ya
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: stuntmannick on June 30, 2007, 12:52:15 PM
nm
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on June 30, 2007, 12:54:18 PM
Ummm.. trust me. I can't get over right now. The only car at my house right now is my car, and the timing chain is broke. The GF is at work and she has the jeep. Dad is on teh road as a truck driver and he takes the Vic to the yard. So I'm out of cars. I feel that this is geting over complicated. Lets let this die down and it wil crrect itself as soon as I get the locks
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on June 30, 2007, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: 84 Fila;157744
Another LONG misunderstanding.



Yes there is a misunderstanding and it is your misunderstanding about how to handle selling parts.

I didn't like your part out thread and the way it was handled to begin with but I let it slide. 

You obviously need better organization skills, especially when dealing with other peoples' money and time. 

You can consider this a warning.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on June 30, 2007, 01:50:09 PM
Understood Chuck. It was due to my lack of comminucation.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: EricCoolCats on July 05, 2007, 10:04:03 AM
Any resolution on this yet? You have a customer waiting...
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 05, 2007, 12:34:07 PM
Everyone, I'm going with brian in about 10 mins to get pics f everything and find these. I *should* either have pics by the end of the day or I'll resolve this. Gumby, i fyou need give me a call on the cell at 330-246-0794
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Ether947 on July 05, 2007, 11:25:03 PM
I started to make a similar thread like this but I didn't. But after going over my original WTB thread (http://"http://foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=13759"), I cannot believe it is over TWO Months since this transaction started and I still have no motor. Now granted a couple weeks of that was Fila waiting on me to receive payment for another part to pay him with.

He kept good communication the first few weeks, with one situation after another delaying shipping (some not entirely his fault, but others were), but after awhile the PM's started to fade off. And to be quite honest I forgot about it myself. Apparently my package was lost by the carrier and Fila contacted me about getting a replacement. Which was last Saturday. He told me it would be in the mail on Monday (which didn't happen BTW). 

He also owes me money for parts (I still have them, not a big deal). And after seeing the CHE thread I got to thinking... where is this money coming from? I cannot possibly fathom Fila doing this intentionally, I just think his priorities are horribly out of whack. But we already know that.

Now I realize you are 18, but if I say I'm going to ship tomorrow, unless something comes up (I've shipped an item on my vacation some 12hrs from home) you better believe I'm going to get my ass to that carrier. It really doesn't matter if you call or email. If it ain't in the mail, it ain't in the mail.

That's my advice. Take it or leave it.

I got to get back to work.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on July 05, 2007, 11:45:07 PM
Mike....I sent you a PM.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 05, 2007, 11:59:55 PM
Chuck: replied
Antionio : called and PM'ed
Gumby: Talked to you and all apeared to be sorted out once I get pics in a few. They will all still be " installed" though if that is ok
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: gumby on July 06, 2007, 06:32:33 AM
heres the update AFAIK.

Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on July 06, 2007, 07:32:50 AM
Quote from: gumby;158906
heres the update AFAIK.

  • in a stroke of pure dumb luck, the FILAs door locks cylinders are keyed the same as the TC
  • Fila has decided to substitute the door cylinders from the FILA to complete the set he committed to me


Just a heads up...I don't think the door cylinders are the same.

When I was puttng the '83 back together after paint, I was looking for a black set to replace the illuminated ones that were originally on the car.  A member sent me a set from an 85-86 IIRC and they were NOT the same when it came to try and attache them to the linkage in the door. 
I'm going to guess that while a noble effort, the Fila door lock cyinders will not work in your 87-88TC.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 06, 2007, 10:59:42 AM
IF that truly is the case Chuck, then I have to say I'm sorry to report that the TC lock cylinders are MIA at the moment. They may have been left in the car when it was junked, or they may be under something in the garrage. I honestly don't know. If you would like to try, I leave the offer open for the Fila locks anyways
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on July 06, 2007, 11:08:30 AM
Has money been exchanged in this "deal".

If so and you don't have the agreed on parts, then I think you know what you should do.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: P71 on July 06, 2007, 11:10:10 AM
83-86 cars use the trunk key in the doors. 87-88 use the ignition key. That in and of itself makes it incorrect.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 06, 2007, 11:11:02 AM
No money, no parts, no exchange. And what I will do is call off the deal and continue the search for the lock cylinders. If I don't find them then I'm sorry for the waste of time Gumby. If I do then we can keep the current deal if you want, or a discount, what ever. I just wana make it right
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 06, 2007, 11:13:43 AM
The TC trunk key opens and locks the Fila's locks. The ignition from teh TC how ever does not work in the Fila. TC keys worked great in all the locks of the TC but again, the lock cylinders for the doors are MIA at the moment
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: EricCoolCats on July 06, 2007, 12:02:57 PM
Quote
83-86 cars use the trunk key in the doors. 87-88 use the ignition key. That in and of itself makes it incorrect.

1983-84 use the round key (trunk, glove box) for the door locks; that was the old 8-pin system. Starting in 1985 Ford used a 10-pin system, where the ignition key also worked the door locks; the round key still worked the trunk lock and the glove box. Physically I've never found a difference in lock cylinder SIZE between the older and newer locks, so they could interchange as long as they're not going from round to the square, illumintated kind.

So, Mike (Fila)...why would you offer to sell the locks from your car? Just to save face, or what? That's pretty stupid...actually one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Weren't you the guy that said locks were too much of a pain to take out in the first place?

If you're not going to follow through on the sale of your parts, don't advertise them. Period. So far all we've seen is talk...very few people seem to have made an actual, completed transaction with you. Two strikes...
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on July 06, 2007, 01:26:01 PM
(moved the door lock posts to another thread)
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: gumby on July 06, 2007, 04:17:04 PM
repostin relevent info from lock question post. ;)

Quote from: Ether947;158844
Now I realize you[Fila] are 18, but if I say I'm going to ship tomorrow, unless something comes up (I've shipped an item on my vacation some 12hrs from home) you better believe I'm going to get my ass to that carrier. It really doesn't matter if you call or email. If it ain't in the mail, it ain't in the mail.

That's my advice. Take it or leave it.


quoted for posterity's sake.
antonio, i hesitated to make this thread as well. i try to give the benefit of the doubt, but after re-readin sleepers thread and now seein your post here im startin to see a pattern :punchballs: 

Fila, for now, i will decline on the lock set since it is not complete, and there are questions about interchangeability with my car. if you happen across the TC door cylinders, let me know.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 06, 2007, 07:38:44 PM
Sure thing Gumby, I'll continue the search.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: 84 Fila on July 07, 2007, 05:05:14 PM
Updated...
Gumby: I'm good with Gumby again after just calling off the deal till he either finds another set of I find the TC locks

Antionio: Will have a real updat on about wendsay when I get money for parts I'm buying and I send the fan the same day. Worked it out over the phone.

Lesson learned... Keep my shiznit together and don't get head of my self. If I make a deal I better follow through with it ASAP
Title: Negative for 84Fila
Post by: Ether947 on September 07, 2007, 01:28:20 PM
Been putting this off for way too long. Sent money many moons ago. Never recieved part. Asked for a partial refund... got nothing but more excuses. Don't care anymore. I'm just about done with these cars anyways.

I don't want the money nor the part. Not holding my breath. Just making it known. In fact, mods please lock this thread from posting.
Title: Negative for 84Fila
Post by: atariman on September 17, 2007, 02:17:56 PM
Sent part on agreement that he would pay when he could. Was told this and that but never got money. Don't want the money, don't want the part back. Just buyer beware 84Fila. Don't want a comment battle on this either. Mods, could you lock this up?
Brian
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: baxo on September 17, 2007, 02:19:15 PM
Maybe one useful information before it gets locked is you stating how long you've been waiting for the money.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on September 17, 2007, 03:25:49 PM
The situation is such that he has the parts, has had them for long enough and the price is small enough that it should have been handled long before now.

Fila should know better by NOW....
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on September 20, 2007, 06:33:22 PM
Antonio finally received the parts...but that still does not change the fact that this transaction was nothing but bad.

Antonio wanted to change it to neutral, but I think that is giving him too much credit.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Flyer on October 16, 2007, 10:49:26 PM
I bought a power seat switch and power seat setup with the motors back in late june or July.Still haven't recieved anything and am getting the runaround.I sent him 100 us.He tells me he got my adress wrong and resent it.Then tells me he got it wrong again and asked for my adress again.So then about 3 weeks later I asked him about my package, and he says " I totally forgot about that.It's packed up in a pile of stuff I gotta send.I've been putting it off as it's expensive as hell to ship.Well if he sent it once it must be paid for.And I already paid him.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: SSX on October 16, 2007, 11:03:40 PM
There are so many negatives around here for Fila and he's been banned.  I say good luck to you sir.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: gumby on October 16, 2007, 11:23:20 PM
Quote from: Flyer;182904
He tells me he got my adress wrong and resent it.Then tells me he got it wrong again and asked for my adress again.


boy that sounds familiar.....shawn?

:beatyoass:
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Cougar5.0 on October 17, 2007, 12:34:03 AM
Glad I never decided to "trade" anything with him as he proposed in PM. He reminds me of some kids I grew up with.

They are in jail or dead now.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Thunder Chicken on October 17, 2007, 08:20:11 AM
Does anyone still feel bad for him being banned?


...Anyone?
Title: you know...
Post by: screaming306 on October 17, 2007, 08:45:08 AM
later on down the road he will grow up and relize what a bunch of great friends and help everybody here is and most likly kick himself in the ass for it. or might buy a honda and join their little club.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: turboranger91 on October 17, 2007, 09:55:43 AM
i'm so glad that i didn't buy him a holley blue fuel pump like he asked.

some of you may think i'm annoying at times, but that is one thing i pride myself in when it comes to internet dealings... i'm always up front and honest.
Title: NEGATIVE for 84 FIla
Post by: Chuck W on October 17, 2007, 10:04:40 AM
Ok..this bandwagon has been sufficently jumped on.  We all know he's a worthless sack.

Sorry you got stuck with a bad deal with that loser.  Unless you show up at his doorstep, you're probably out of luck though.