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User Rides / Re: 1983 Ford Thunderbird Heritage
Drove the tbird around for the last two days since my daily is broke and i needed to put more miles on that fuel sender and all i can say is wow, the headlights just dont light up anything on the road in the rain. The stuff they used to paint the lines with lasted years and was still visible in the rain with standard halogens but man this newer stuff is faded after months and is invisible in the rain.
Had to pic up some new wipers right away and the intermitten wipers just kept stopping randomly on the windshield untill i ran the normal speed for awhile. Probably havent been used for decades so im just glad they even work.
I put it back in the garage again, maybe next weekend ill drag it back out, but while i was there i finally got to use those h4 headlight replacements i bought like a year ago but threw some cheap leds in.



I hate the color, hope they wont blind people but they probably will. Well see.
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User Rides / Re: 1983 Ford Thunderbird Heritage
Stopped by the garage today before i went to work, actually a few days ago also to take it out, to replace the alternator.
Easy enough job with just a 7/16, 9/16, 5/8 sockets and 15mm wrench and 5/16 socket for the tensioner.

Pulled the old one out and took a pic so i can remember where the wires go.



Inspecting the alternator charging harness, wires looks good no hot spots or corrosion on the connectors. A real shame that these connectors are not reproduced by anybody.



Old and new(nos rebuilt actually). I had to drag it to work yesterday to remove the pulley since i cant find my impact anywhere.



And new one ready to go in.



The old one has alot of forward/back play in it, definately enough to make the belt jump. Rebuildable so im going to drag it to work and take it apart and see where the play came from.
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Lounge / Re: Winter Projects?
I looked but couldn't find 'em. Fairly sure I had some out there. Doubt they'd get swiped when there's much more valuable wheels and other stuff LOL.

I have some stuff at the other farm...it is possible they're there.

Regards to your question...I don't know until I see em. I CAn tell you though, they're the real deal from way back in the day, not the new ones made now by LMR or whatnot.

I'll do a little digging around this weekend, see if I can come up with something for ya.

I DO have a really nice set of ten holes with tires that I have no need for...

Dont worry about it, im not in any rush for this. Im still trying to put money aside for the tires since that is going to run around 2000 bucks itself.
The only other rims i was considering are the phone dials since i like them.

Since its snowing now and im not really working on the car or driving in it my winter plans are to scan some of the ford and tbird literature i have piled up for whoever it might help or might be interested in it.
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Engine Tech / Re: Motor mounts
I think he is actually just asking if the originals were solid or hydraulic, which im guessing means he doesnt still have the originals handy.
I dont know about the 2.3l ones but my 3.8 v6 originals were hydraulic.
If the isolators are all the same i would just pick up the hydraulic ones since they are available.
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Engine Tech / Re: Motor mounts
Wasnt 86 the transition year for motor mounts, from the block type to the pedestal ones?
I dont know about the 2.3 ones but my original mounts on my 3.8 v6 86 tbird were the hydraulic pedestal type. When i replaced them with the only available replacement, solid type, the motor shook and the car vibrated thru the steering wheel for months afterwards.
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Site Suggestions / Re: Image attachments?
I just use imgbb for hosting since imageshack is gone.
Even though many forums offer hosting for images id rather not since the size of attachments can easily be exceeded by even the smallest of phone pics now.
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Engine Tech / Re: cranks no start **Diagosed**
Opinion, considering how deep you already are here at this point would dropping the k member to get the oil pan out be considered excessive? Its not like you are doing this on the street.
Doing all this finagling to get it out and to get it back in just increases the chance for something to go wrong and having to redo it.
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Electrical Tech / Re: Considering Alternator Replacement, Weighing Options
Yeah, those manuals on CD are a pain to work with. I have to hang on to my Win XP computer to use them. They're a no go on Win  7-10.
I don't know if there is a visible difference between the  40 and 60 amp versions if the color stamps are not there.
In the text it says the stator coils are in a delta configuration in the 60 amp.
The side terminal shows the difference in the diagram.

I hear ya on the windows xp thing.

The only thing i know of how to tell is the stamp on the case for amp rating. My car has green and yellow paint on everything, including the alternator, for no reason so if i was looking for just that i wouldnt be certain of its rating.

The stamp on the nos one i got, it was under the sticker they put on it.



The color tag.

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Electrical Tech / Re: Considering Alternator Replacement, Weighing Options
Thats different than the book i got here.





Its mostly just a reference to the technician, the stuff you posted i probably have on the ebay service manual cd i bought awhile but am too lazy to pull out the computer for because its terrible for looking up specifics that way. Rather have the paper back ill get around to buying one at some point.
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Electrical Tech / Re: Considering Alternator Replacement, Weighing Options
My 84 Ford shop manual has a detailed write-up of the 1G alternators.
Rear Terminal 40 & 60 amp. 8 Pages.
Side Terminal 70 & 100 amp. 7 pages.
I can scan and post the info if you are interested.

I have some old book that talks about them from ford, its possibly the same info but post one to be sure.

My mustang convertible would probably benefit from a 3g upgrade but im not seeing much info regarding that for the 2.3l.

It's not that different to install a 3G on a 2.3T than any other. You need a small case, 180* mount alternator and swap the pulley if you're keeping the dual belts.
I've had a 130A 3G on my TBird for years.

I put a 95A 3G on the LTS and would never consider another 1G, unless for some odd reason I was worried about originality.


I was worried it will stick into the distributor and ignition cables too much since its already kinda tight there. Hopefully not.
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Electrical Tech / Re: Considering Alternator Replacement, Weighing Options
My wiring appears to be fine, when i had everything apart for the belt tensioner swap i remember inspecting it some but just on the alternator end because i was working on that part of it. It was awhile ago ill have to double check.
The 3g swap doesnt allow me to retain the choke wire apparently and i would have to run a new one for it. Not really leaning towards it at this point anymore. My mustang convertible would probably benefit from a 3g upgrade but im not seeing much info regarding that for the 2.3l.

The upgraded 1g would make me want to put a better circut breaker/fusible link in place of the factory one but i dont see any difference in the wiring gauge for later cars with higher amp output, the charge wires and fusible links appear to be the same size for 3g powered cars stock harnesses ive been looking over.

I have off this thursday im going to try to pop over and pull the alternator out and see if i can swap the front part on the powermaster and see what happens. Going to have to dig up a decent multimeter to read amps but im sure i have one around somewhere.