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Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #30
Don't transplant the Teves II ABS unit from the Turbo Coupe/Mark VII to the Cougar. It's a pain and not worth it.
88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, bunch of other stuff.

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #31
The only thing I would add is the following based off of my past experiences.

Front Brakes
11" TC spindles, calipers, & rotors up front.  Clean and inspect bearings and races in rotors, if they pass repack the bearings and install a new seal on the back.  If it was me I would just get some reman calipers and use the ones you have for the cores.  Cost will be around $20 per caliper with the cores provided at the time of purchase.  This holds true on the Mark VII calipers as well but if you go that route make sure you are getting the steel piston versus the phenolic type.  Get some good brake pads and that will be the biggest difference you will notice in these brakes performance wise.  Check the two soft lines between the calipers and the hard lines on the front sub-frames to make sure they have not swelled shut.

TC Rear End
Maintenance:
Go with the TC rear end as a complete setup.  I would suggest that you give the rear end some TLC so change the oil and replace the axle bearings and seals.  To do this is as simple as removing the rear cover, drain the oil, remove the rear axles (remove king pin bolt, slide kin pin out, remove c-clips, & remove axles), pop out the old oil seals, and remove the bearings.  You can rent/borrow the bearing removal tool and installer from AutoZone or the like parts store.  Inspect the bearing surface on each axle and replace axle(s) if necessary.  My 8.8 was used and had all kinds of sludge and grime in the axle tubes so I used an old broom stick and some 1/4" plywood cut like a half circle and screwed to the end of the old broom stick.  I used this to essentially se the  out of the axle tubes and then stood the axle up on end and used carb cleaner to wash the tubes out away from the center section (gears).  Install the new axles bearings and oil seals, reinstall the alxes, c-clips, king pin, and king pin bolt.  Bolt the pan on and fill with fluid and trac-lok additive.  The one thing you may want to do while you are in there is rebuild the trac-lok which is not too hard and has been covered on here and many of the Mustang sites.

Brakes:
Again, if it was me I would just get some reman calipers and use the ones you have for the cores.  Cost will be around $40 per caliper with the cores provided at the time of purchase.  You would have to reuse the caliper bracket but those are usually in good shape.  The reason I do this is they are old enough that the piston is usually cantankerous and will not screw back in when installing new pads or the e-brake mechanism is hosed.  Again, good brake pads will be the biggest difference you will notice in these brakes performance wise.  Check the two soft lines between the calipers and the hard lines on the rear end to make sure they have not swelled shut.

Transmissions:
Do not use the T-5 from the TC behind a 5.0 and expect it to live with any kind of power and especially if you have good tires on the rear and are hooking up.  the TC T-5 are geared very low for the lack of torque and high RPM nature of the 4 cylinder turbo.  They are worth some $$$ to the 4 cylinder crowd so if you want to go the manual T-5 route source a Fox Mustang unit as they can still be had for around $400 with bell housing and clutch fork if you are patient.

I have no advice on auto's and no experience with building, installing, and setting them up as far as the TV cable and all that goes.

Darren

83 351W TKO'd T-Bird on the bottle


93 331 Mustang Coupe - 368 rwhp

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #32
Or buy a sn-96 v-6 trans.  3.35 1st gear and .68 od ratio . they are allover the junkyards here and stang guys won't touch them because of the larger bell housing.

I've got 50k miles and 3 broken sets of motor mounts out of mine spinning a 275/60 tire everytime i got the chance without a hiccup. the 94-98 has a rating of 265lbs, the 99-04 is rated at 300lbs with a lot of the later model t-5 upgrades according to the v-6 stang guys
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #33
Well, I learned a lot from this thread. I had no idea the TCs had Teves II brakes. Yuck! Also learned I should keep my automatic. The parts TC I have my eyes on is a standard, but now I know I should not use it. With the price of another manual tranny, new clutch, clutch cable, and flywheel, the price outweighs the advantages.

From everything I see, I wouldn't touch the front springs on that Cougar. It has the best springs of our cats and birds. The springs on my LX need to go!

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #34
I've also learned a lot. Thankful of this site and you guys for sure!! On a side note I've already redone the tc brakes all the way around. New calipers pads and rotors..  But I'm still gonna hang on to the t5. I'm more interested in the clutch pedal assembly and the under the hood stuff.. I'm not looking to make a rocket out of the car right away.. I figure with the tc rear and a fresher Trans and the h.o. Upgrade I should see a huge difference!!! ? No?
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Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #35
Should be a big change. post pics of progress.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #36
Quote from: Haystack;431714
Should be a big change. post pics of progress.

x2. I tried to post the exact same thing, but it disappeared.

Couple tech Qs. Engine and drivetrain

Reply #37
I will I sold the Chevy pickup for 400$ that should get me enough paint supplies and misc stuff.. Now to get them in the shop and tear down ;) and I will post pics with updates fellas!!
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Just enjoyin the ride!!!!