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sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #75
DUDE better kick that habit of smoking. Those CAMELS will due you in. The stick is a real good fit for a tall DUDE!!! I like the shorter ones without the bend because i am a MIDGET!!! Looks like you have it pulled back in gear. If so it is a very nice setup and choice. You did good STACKS. Nice job!!
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #76
Yup, I popped it into second on both pictures. the longer shifter litterly hit the ashtray lid. the shorter handle is about 1 1/2" away from the shifter plate surround where it was touching before.

Once I find an appropriate shift boot to fit over the handle, ill attach it to the shifter surround and it will look pretty factory rather then a hack job.

Tom, thanks for the kind words. I am proud of the swap. in the next year or so this car is going to start getting a lot better now that I have another car. I plan to swap the engine with my new block, some gt-40 heads, explorer intake, dual exhaust, h.o. cam computer and injectors. I'm hoping to hit about 250 with the swap and my goal is to have it done before winter.

I also need to replace the power steering rack and motor mounts bolts are broken off inside the block and its eating oil like crazy, so I think its safe to say it will be coming out soon.

As far as smoking goes, I am going to quit Wednesday and hopefully be over it by the following Monday.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #77
Quote from: Haystack;429444
As far as smoking goes, I am going to quit Wednesday and hopefully be over it by the following Monday.

Best performance gain ever. LOL

Don't forget upgraded valve springs in your '40 heads...the stockers won't like the HO cam. With a good exhaust setup, and a decent engine, not one that's been beat to , you'll likely make at least 250...there's a lot of guys who dropped in an explorer block, nothing more than a cam swap, and better valvesprings, and good exhaust, hit 300. Usually with lower mileage blocks though.

A TFS-1 cam would definitely get 300. That's my plan with a very similar setup.
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #78
Yeah, I don't need to smoke anymore, and I'm done paying for it. I will get agitated easily, so this weekend I'm gonna stay by myself for a few days starting Wednesday night and just be done with it. I quit about a year ago for 8 months until my divorce got all shiznitty and went to jail on false charges. it was kill someone or leave pissed for a few days, and I picked it back up again then. it was a really dark time for me.

First time I quit I was sure I was done. things are getting better for me now and all the drama is gone.

I have a new 85 block with some stock s.o. junk I've had sitting for the last 10 years or so I want to get going. I want to stay with as many stock or factory parts as possible and keep the car driving. I'm tempted to actual get an rv cam because down the road I want to get a small trailer and air shocks so I can tow and carry some bigger things when I occasionally go out of state for work.

I wouldn't mid leaving it stock, but I have all the parts almost already and if I gotta tear it all apart, might as well make it better.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #79
Likie i said you did a good job on that conversion. Looks real good
I spend money I don't have, To build  cars I don't need, To impress people I don't know

HAVE YOU DRIVEN A FORD LATELY!!

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #80
I'd just run a TFS-1 cam, or even an HO, with good gearing, they'll give you the grunt to pull a trailer. The weight of the car will be a limiting factor before the cam's torque provision, I think.

The 5.0 HO makes as much, or more torque than the 5.0 trucks did of the same year. The only major difference was the cam, and SEFI vs bank fire of the injector pulse. Not to mention firing order, but that is probably insignificant compared to the cam itself...

Ho cam, gears, and good exhaust...you'll be able to pull a trailer easily...don't forget the trans cooler if you're running the AOD. ;)
'84 Mustang
'98 Explorer 5.0
'03 Focus, dropped a valve seat. yay. freakin' split port engines...
'06 Explorer EB 4.6

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #81
I've been playing with shifter boots. both an sc tbird and taurus sho boot fit well, but with the shorter super coupe handle it bunches up a lot. i might go with a short throw shifter if i can find one cheap. 30% less throw and the handles are a lot more straight, but overall height of the  looks the same.

i found one locally for $90, but im gonna wait a bit and see if he will knock down the price some.

i plan to attach the boot right to the aod floor shift cover plate with some double sided tape. now all i really need to do is seal the shifter seal a bit better to the floor and throw some.self tappers in there to hold it in place incase the silicon fails.

can't wait to have a bit of money coming in so that i can actually start working on the bird again.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #82
Wow don't know how I missed this thread.... I had know idea you did a build thread for the swap. I actually find this very helpful. So thanks for that.

I feel your pain on the shift handle.... I don't think I could stand to use the curved on either... esp with my cupholder mod placement lol.
--Steve
[thread=28690]1988 Cougar V6[/thread]
2012 F-150 3.7L
2011 Mustang 3.7L

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #83
It clears the ash tray when its open or closed. my bad motor mounts let the whole assembly shift and made it so that the  rattles against the ash tray lid.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #84
After doing a bit more research, the 99-04 trans tailshaft housing uses a different mounting point for the trans cross brace, which is why my aod mount worked fine.

the clearancing issue with 5th gear and a gear driven vss is caused because 5th gear is wider and the speedo gear is actually located at a different place in the later 99-04 tailshaft. the 5th gear shaft is also slightly larger, hence the need for a bit of clearancing.

lucky me though. I've got a lathe all ready to go if i do actually go through and do this. mainly i want an accurate speedo so i can install a trip computer and see what kind of gas mileage i am actually getti.g out of the ed thing.

long story short, swapping tail shaft housings will require machini.g the 5th gear shaft, modifying or usong the correct cross member, and possibly mounting issues with the stock style vss.

I'm starting to wonder if a speedo calibrater might be worth it for $180.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #85
I know we have kind of spoken through comments back and forth a bit about a trans swap, but i need your help if you could lend some! I was going to rebuild my old AOD(too expensive) so i got one from a pull apart yard( tail shaft was too big) didnt wanna pull it apart myself, my knowledge isnt vast enough. So, I bought a 97 v6 mustang with a t-5. I want to swap it into my 88 t-bird 5.0. I read your write up on it and i wanna make sure i have it straight...

-I need a T-5 with bell housing from my v6 sn95 - check
-Pedals and clutch cable from a gt fox body stang - need
-92-96 F-150 5.0 manual trans mini-starter - need
-1980's F-150 (4.9l im assuming) 11'' clutch kit - need
-1980's F-150 (4.9l Im also assuming) 11'' Flywheel - need

this is what ive gathered from your write up, What other parts are absolutely necessary for the build so i know what all i need to get it done in a couple days? I NEED this car running before the end of the year. Any and all info that i dont already have would be amazing and much appreciated!!

Thank you

Also i tried to PM you but it wouldnt let me due to lack of space lol

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #86
I used the 86ish f-150 302 clutch.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #87
Ok so i wanted to share my progress, and ask a couple questions. So far I have the clutch, flywheel, and trans in. got the shifter in and new center console fitted. I was wondering about the trans cross-member and mount... what did you use? ive tried reusing the one i have on the old aod and the one from the sn95 neither seem to fit. also what did you do to wire the new starter in? im not an electrically savvy person at all lol... anyways any help would be appreciated!

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #88
Thick goes on the same post as the battery so it is always hot. The other small wire goes on the other post.

I reused my stock 87 v-8 cross member, but the mounts are "adjustable" if needed. There is a small weld on the round tube where the tube can slide. Grind off the weld and you can slide it around for ideal placement then tack it back on with a welder.

The 94-98 trans uses the same back housing as a fox Stang. The 99-04 uses a different longer tailshaft. The longer one I was able to use my old aod cross member.

You will also have to jump the neutrual saftey switch. This is the two wires on a four pin plug that went to the aod near the shifter rod if I remember right.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

sn-95 v-6 t-5 behind a 5.0

Reply #89
I just noticed you said 4.9 f-150 flywheel...

Make sure this is the 302 28oz I'm balance. If it is the 4.9 300ci i-6 flywheel, it will not be balanced properly.
Quote from: jcassity
I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
Hooligans! 
1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
1986 cougar.
lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com