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351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #15 –
for the record, the C is NOT a big block... the head fit on a W block, they have a SB bellhousing pattern, they have small main journals... the only thing that they share with big blocks is the overall size of the heads, ports, and valve sizes...  There is one block that does skew the defining line... and that's the "400 FMX", it has all the outside sizes of the 400/351M but has a small block bellhousing pattern on it... not many were made but I ended up with one...

Methos

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #16 –
so the c isn't classified as a big block?
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #17 –
No. They marketed it as a small block with big block heads.
As methos said they have the same bellhousing pattern as a 302 the same mounts and location as a 302. Smaller main journals, deck height than a 351w.

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #18 –
That is correct. A 351m,400m have the big block bell housing and motor mount locations. A 351c is easy to swap except the expensive headers and oil pan to do it. I've even been thinking of a AOD instead of c-6,lowering gears to 4.10. Im sure my car would be faster and have overdrive. But a cheap AOD wont cut it. They are weak even to a 5.0,and need proper mods to make them live.
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

Heres Some py Pics of Engine

Reply #19 –
Heres a couple pics of the disassembly of my bird. The 5.0 ho lifter setup,header,oil pan,head. I know the engine dept needs attention.
And I havent bought k-member yet,all to come soon with better pics.
:birdsmily:
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

One More Pic of the 1BDBIRD

Reply #20 –
Hail the almighty bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love my T-BIRD. LOL!!!!!!!!!
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #21 –
it looks nasty, i see your missing a light there, and i love the two tone trim lol.
RIP 1988 and 1990 Lincoln Mark VII LSC
I welcomed the dark side and currently am driving a 2000 Dodge Durango SLT plus, with a 5.9, Code named project "Night Runner"
Shes black on black, fully loaded, with headers, 180 tstat, e fan, straight exhaust into a cherry bomb vortex ler, full tune up, ported intake and T/B, MSD coil, and round aircleaner.
Mods to come: Fully rebuilt and heavily modded 46RE, and a richmond rachet locker.
my $300 beater ;)
R.I.P Kayleigh Raposa 12/18/90 - 2/24/07

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #22 –
I was going to try to keep the stock Bird K-member but I might switch you a tubular for weight and future upgrades...

Methos

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #23 –
Quote from: 1BDBIRD;128360
Hail the almighty bird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love my T-BIRD. LOL!!!!!!!!!


I like Your hood scoop!!!, I guess I'll make one for one of My spares Hood, and paint at the same time I'll paint My bird,I'll guess I'll paint two others hoods, one straight, one with a scoop like Your, and the TC hood on the car, If I change My mind for any reason, I'll just change the hood, that's it:hick:

Regards,

Dom.
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]1985 Thunderbird 3.8 carbed 57k original, summer car.
1980 Econoline inline 6 300ci 300k, winter/working.
1988 Base Bird finally crushed... RIP.

Dominique,  The Ridiculous, Fordus, crazyous!!!  :birdsmily:

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #24 –
Ya that scoop is off of my 1974 Comet Gt 302/3spd/floorshift. It has been on my 71 Cougar,and now on my bird. I like the way it turned out on there. Was going cowl but everybody has one of them.
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #25 –
How easy and common is that 5.0 roller lifter conversion?
One 88

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #26 –
into a cleveland? I have never heard of it being done.

Methos

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #27 –
Keep on with your Cleveland swap! I'd like to see some pics when you get it in the engine bay and compare how much room you have compared to a 460 swap. __ Alan
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #28 –
Its the same. I measured the 70 460 I sold last year and If I remember right they were both like 27inches and a half or something like that. Money to Power wise I should have done the 460,but the guy helping me build my engine says that 460+hp is about what I be at with Srp pistons,balance,cc the pistons,3 angle valve job,roller valvetrain,ect few old racer tricks. Should haul ass?
1987 T-bird SportCoupe,302,5spd,8.8,3.27s,pbr brakes,spindles,2003 rear,18inch 06 gt rims!!!!:evilgrin:
2006 Gt Mustang,3v,5spd,8.8,3.55s,GT500rims.
1990 T-bird LX,3.8,aod,loaded,stock!!
1999 Trailblazer(wifes rig)

351c Swap-pics Of Parts To Do It

Reply #29 –
If you can get 460 HP out of your Cleveland  then you most certainly will be in the "Kick Ass" territory!!
The great advantage on the Cleveland over the 429-460 is your bird will be about 175-200 lbs. less heavy on the nose of the car. That will certainly help on the launch.
Our big problem we have with the 730 pound 460s we run is weight transfer. So I spend more time setting up the rear suspension and use Moroso "trick' front coil springs for a Fox Body.
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10