306 swap in work June 30, 2006, 01:24:01 AM Engine bay empty and the 3.8 stroker plans have gone down hill.I am going to put in my 306 and i think i have all my parts gathered up. I can post up engine specs or just read the first entry on "3.8 stroker in process"QuestionAny advice on motor mounts for an E0 engine block casting number????. The mounts i have now on the block have the bolt at a 45deg where it would pass thru an oval hole in the frame like you see onlate 80's or early 90's bronco's. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #1 – June 30, 2006, 01:48:23 AM hmm, Why not just buy all new motor mounts? or get a new k- member so that you can throw in mustang mounts.What are the specs for the engine. I would much rather see a 4.2 all played out, but oh well. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #2 – June 30, 2006, 01:57:16 AM you can use the factory mounts if im not mistaken they will bolt to the block, and transmission has the same bolt pattern. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #3 – June 30, 2006, 02:00:17 AM I not really savy on all the body parts and interchangeable parts like some are. All my coug chassis parts are oem except for the basics and the rack.as far as the specs,, its pretty special,,,,ill copy past the specs i guess.,basically im gonna convert this Duraspark II carb'd system to batch fire EEC IV.I have inherited a motor i built for a buddy of mined0 casting 302 blockc6 289 heads studed heads1.6 something inch stainless intake valves1.9 something inch stainless exhaust valves1.6 roller rockerscam lift is .496intake and .520exhaustcam duration is 290intake and 300exhaustforged 40 over pistonsdecked blockshaved heads @ .020high volume oil pumphigh volume fuel pumpsome sort of bad ass springs, not sure what brand600 something eldebrock carb (use to have a holly 750 double pumper) ,,,going to invent a cfi conceptchrome summit add ons and air cleaner/valve covershigh end head gaskets from what i rememberpos duraspark but oh wellnew gear set and chainfound the stroker kit for ithope i can figure out a way to put injectors on the intake later down the lineconverting to batch fire CFID2 aluminum mustang intake for 2bbl purchased for 20bux today (replaces the high rise carb'd intake)shopping for a DIS for itI want to get the transmission shop to take my spare aod and make it a standard automatic. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #4 – June 30, 2006, 02:02:34 AM Quote from: SLEEPER T-BIRD 87you can use the factory mounts if im not mistaken they will bolt to the block, and transmission has the same bolt pattern.not on this block.,, the mounts bolt to engine in a vertical situation. My 3.8 mounts bolt to the block at a 45 deg situation. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #5 – June 30, 2006, 02:39:05 AM i belive any bird or cats 5.0 mounts will work. but chuck made some realy nice looking mounts talk to him Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #6 – June 30, 2006, 04:38:25 PM Quotecam lift is .496intake and .520exhaustcam duration is 290intake and 300exhaust[/QUOTElol thats my old flat tappit cams specs what brand cam are those specs from mine was a blue reacer..Nick Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #7 – June 30, 2006, 06:07:12 PM Um, I got one word... ChuckW (motor mounts) Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #8 – July 01, 2006, 12:08:30 AM You need the upper brackets that bolts to the block and the 5.0 insulators, lower bracket should be the same(at least it is on the 2.3 and 5.0). ONLY '86-'88 5.0 Birds/Cougs used this type mounts... All 289/302/5.0/351W use the same spaced bolt holes in the block, the 221 and early 260 used a narrower spacing between the bolts, I believe the late 260 was same as later engines ... Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #9 – July 01, 2006, 12:15:11 AM Hey Tom, I have a little bit more uselfull 3.8 info... the bases on 3.8 cars are different than the 5.0's.. they shift the isolator to one side more than the 5.0 Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #10 – July 01, 2006, 02:41:21 AM What you want to do is either get chucks motor mounts(obviously) or swap out to a 85-83 cougar/tbird or 79-93? mustang kmember and use mustang motor mounts. That way when stuff breaks you can buy new ones. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #11 – July 01, 2006, 08:46:43 AM Quote from: Blown306CougarQuotecam lift is .496intake and .520exhaustcam duration is 290intake and 300exhaust[/QUOTElol thats my old flat tappit cams specs what brand cam are those specs from mine was a blue reacer..NickI remember the box had the word "BLUE" in is and i think your right, blue racer was the brand. It was a company that got purchased by crane cams i think several years ago. Its a pretty old cam but has hardly no miles on it. Wolverine blue racer i think.As for the motor mounts,,, im coming off the block with a piece of flat steel and landing directly on top of the existing mount. The mounts will be done today,, hopefully the engine in and running as well. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #12 – July 01, 2006, 10:05:49 AM Quote from: CougarSEHey Tom, I have a little bit more uselfull 3.8 info... the bases on 3.8 cars are different than the 5.0's.. they shift the isolator to one side more than the 5.0Thanks Claude, I remember there were four mounting holes in the 2.3/5.0 lowers and they each used different holes, but brackets were same... I have the 2.3 lowers in mine as the mounts were bad(as in a long long time) in the 5.0 parts car and the lower brackets were so beat up I didn't want to use them...Even the large right side '87-'88 2.3 insulater is the same as 5.0 as I swapped one into the left side on a '86 5.0 Bird with no issue... I suspect the left(smaller in diameter) TC insulator can swap as well. I gave the only one I had to the son-in-law for the daughters old TC... Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #13 – July 02, 2006, 12:58:46 AM well, apparently ive overlooked something simple. the mounts are going well, got distracted with other things. It seems now that its a holiday weekend, i wont be able to hit the jy and find a shallower oil pan. the one i have reminds you of a 5 gallon bucket:rollin: Ill have to figure out a work around on this one , hopefully one of my buddies has a pan. Going shallower bothers me casue my when it was running, the hight volume oil pump would like to drop from about 120 psi to around 60 or so if you gun it going at high speed,,,,guess ibetter keep my foot out of it. Quote Selected
306 swap in work Reply #14 – July 02, 2006, 11:03:26 AM Guys,, are these the motor mount block brakets you all are talking about?johns331 pic,,,,,,,, been researching cardomain sites. Quote Selected
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