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3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #15 –
Quote from: jrad235;282932
IYep. That's what I had so that's what I used. I thought about using new ones, but I asked about the accessories for the motor when I bought it and they wanted 50-100 per piece or some fool thing, so I politely declined and made what I had work. And it works rather nicely.

I've been wanting to put a modern pulley set on my '87. Was too lazy to look at the set on my '02 motor that is going in my '85. Reckon I'll put a new set on whenever I get off my arse.

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #16 –
You know, I should probably find out which way the water pump is SUPPOSED to turn, quickly. So, anybody out there with a new(99-03) v6 mustang want to let me know which way the pulley turns?

You just want to change the pulleys? Or swap the brackets and everything for modern components? Because I had to space out all my components about...  .5"-1.5" Somewhere in there, to get them to line up correctly. so I would guess to line up the new stuff with the old crank you would have to trim them down?
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #17 –
The water pump is a reverse rotation pump (it runs off the back side of the belt). It should spin in the opposite direction the crankshaft spins. From what I can see of your belt routing you should be OK.
2015 Mustang GT Premium - 5.0, 6-speed, Guard Green - too much awesome for one car

1988 5.0 Thunderbird :birdsmily: SOLD SEPT 11 2010: TC front clip/hood ♣ Body & paint completed Oct 2007 ♣ 3.55 TC rear end and front brakes ♣ TC interior ♣ CHE rear control arms (adjustable lowers) ♣ 2001 Bullitt springs ♣ Energy suspension poly busings ♣ Kenne Brown subframe connectors ♣ CWE engine mounts ♣ Thundercat sequential turn signals ♣ Explorer overhead console (temp/compass display) ♣ 2.25" off-road dual exhaust ♣ T-5 transmission swap completed Jan 2009 ♣

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #18 –
Phew, I was pretty sure that I had checked that, but had a little moment of panic there.
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #19 –
That's a pretty neat swap. Cool.

I have wanted for years to have a hi-po V-6 Ford engine that could take about 15 lbs of boost like Buick's GN. Unfortunately, SVO discontinued their V-6 racing stuff.

Does the Ford V-6 guys have a website for info?
Alan Mackin--Semi Professional Ford der
83 T-Bird 460
83 T-Bird Heritage 5.0
84 T-Bird 5.0
86 T-Bird Turbo Coupe NHRA Stocker & Super Stocker
87 T-Bird Turbo Coupe
88 Bronco II Drag truck 302
95 Mustang GT auto
2004 F-350 CC Dually V-10

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #20 –
v6power.net is pretty good, but I've only just begun to explore it. There is a guy over there named Chris Torres(sp?) that was running 9-12PSI of turbo on a stock bottom end like mine, but these motors came with a factory stud girdle for cryin' out loud.
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #21 –
hmm begining to sound interesting, has anyone used a 94 3.8v6 in these? what did you have to chenge to put the 03 stang engine in?
'83 Cougar *the never ending project* warmed over 306 v8,c4,8.8 posi with 5 lug conversion
'91 mustang strictly street-in progress
'00 f150 7700-Mean Green: jet stage 1 chip,ported upper intake with 1" spacer,'04 Super Duty intake with injectors,summit racing short tube headers with true 2.5" duals with smithy's glasspacks!

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #22 –
I don't know about the '94, but in general(Excluding the SuperCoupe), the rolling assemblies before 99 weren't that strong. IIRC, the '99-up has lighter rods and pistons, stronger block, better heads(Twin port) and hydraulic roller cams. I cannot remember the differences between the 80's 3.8 and the early-mid 90s 3.8, but I don't think they were that different. Skinny lob flat tappet cams, no stud girdle, py heads, etc.

As far as what I HAD to do to make this motor work was to space out my accessories, modify the heater hose/routing, manufacture an EGR spacer(Because everyone knows that it would be too easy for a company to just sell one!) for the carb, make new tubing for the EGR,  clearance the head and lower intake for the distributor, purchase a modified distributor and upper intake from Tom Morana, rebend the head pipes of the exhaust, change out the s(You need to get these off the donor car because you can't buy them), modify the transmission kickdown, have new Transmission cooler lines made and add a trans cooler, cut a big ass hole in my hood, mount a remote fuel pump,  make a new throttle cable bracket, and a bunch of other small things. The throttle cable should technically be changed out for a longer one, but it JUST has enough play to get it there.

Keep in mind my car was originally carburated, and keeping this motor fuel injected will require much more than I did.
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #23 –
Mac Longtube headers FTW! lol.  Awesome swap...isn't the split port 200hp right out of the gate?
Project 3G: Grandpa Grocery Getter-'85 Crown Vic LTD 2-door, 351W with heavily ported/polished GT40 heads, heavily ported/polished Typhoon Power Plus upper & lower intake, Comp Cams 265DEH retarded 1*, FAST EZ-EFI, HD T5, 8.8" 3.73 trac lock with extra clutches, 3G alt. swap, '99 CVPI front brakes, '09 CVPI rear disc brakes, '00 CVPI booster&m/c + wilwood adj prop valve.

Parted & Gone-'88 T-bird Sport, 351W swap, ported GT40 heads

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #24 –
Longtubes? Who said anything about those? Although I wouldn't mind having a pair..

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Sick88Tbird --- Awesome swap...isn't the split port 200hp right out of the gate?

Thanks, the FI Windstar is an even 200, the mustang, for some inane reason has 190hp - Fuel injected.
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #25 –
Quote from: jrad235;282855
It was one of the split port motors? Built and free? And you turned it down!?:D

Well, it definitely took some modifications to make it work, as I reused my front end accessories.


It had super coupe heads. The main reason I turned it down was I didnt know what I would have owed him and he was a back stabbing a$$hole. I also didnt have a tranny for it. Plus Id rather put the money in to my cougar. Its a better project in the long run.
88 Cougar LS 5.0 .030 over, ported E7s with GT40 valves & trickflow springs, Proform roller rockers, HO cam, removed air silencer, K&N filter, smog pump delete, 2.25" dual flowmasters, Pacestter H-pipe & headers, HO computer, 65mm TB, Explorer intake, 19# injecters, 3.45s, rebuilt posi, and TCI shift kit.

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #26 –
Yes yes, I see now...
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I need to change something else in my drivetrain, anyone have a set of 3.73's for a 7.5"?
Balanced(Mine isn't) Aluminum(Why not upgrade?) drive shaft that fits a C-5?

How about a 2800 Stall converter?

 No? Well OK fine then!  :D
1983 Tbird with '03 Split Port V6 motor swap done! Headers, dual exhaust, 500CFM Edelbrock, 3G upgrade, Electric fan. 3.73 Gears and an FRPP Limited Slip. Five lug complete! 5-Speed conversion complete! Standalone Fuel Injection in progress...

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #27 –
I beleave it has the same bellhouse bolt pattarn as the SB V8. I would switch to a better trany like a C4, AOD, or T5. I dont know anything about C5s but they do make alot of upgrades for the tranys I listed. I have a AOD that needs rebuilt, you can have it if you pick it up.
88 Cougar LS 5.0 .030 over, ported E7s with GT40 valves & trickflow springs, Proform roller rockers, HO cam, removed air silencer, K&N filter, smog pump delete, 2.25" dual flowmasters, Pacestter H-pipe & headers, HO computer, 65mm TB, Explorer intake, 19# injecters, 3.45s, rebuilt posi, and TCI shift kit.

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #28 –
Quote from: jrad235;283522
Yes yes, I see now...
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I need to change something else in my drivetrain, anyone have a set of 3.73's for a 7.5"?
Balanced(Mine isn't) Aluminum(Why not upgrade?) drive shaft that fits a C-5?

How about a 2800 Stall converter?

 No? Well OK fine then!  :D


lol i have a set of 3.73's but they are in the stock car, have a steel c5 driveshaft,but i cut it taking out the c5 that i thought dad was gonna need...
'83 Cougar *the never ending project* warmed over 306 v8,c4,8.8 posi with 5 lug conversion
'91 mustang strictly street-in progress
'00 f150 7700-Mean Green: jet stage 1 chip,ported upper intake with 1" spacer,'04 Super Duty intake with injectors,summit racing short tube headers with true 2.5" duals with smithy's glasspacks!

3.8 Split port swap carb conversion complete! Now with Pics!

Reply #29 –
Quote from: jrad235;283506
Thanks, the FI Windstar is an even 200, the mustang, for some inane reason has 190hp - Fuel injected.

I believe the main increase is due to the Windstar intake. It won't fit under a stock hood though!