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Thread: Back in a fox. 1988 Turbo Coupe. The life journal.

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    Looks like a few cuss words were probably uttered, lol.

    I had to rebuild my jack, the cylinder kept bleeding off, and it would go down.
    I'm surprised, I'd have thought that the TA would be a good bit longer than an Aero Bird.

    I've gotta get some car stuff done too, one day off a week sucks though.
    Good work man, hopefully you can fire it up soon and take it for a spin.
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    Codes man. Scan the codes .
    '88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 70mm TB, 76mm C&L MAF, 30lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, AOD with 2800 PI converter, 8.8 with 3.73 gears, 31 spline Traction-Lok, 31 spline Moser axles, 04 Cobra front arms, Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear arms, subframes.
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    Yup, codes.

    My guess is a shitty parts store fuel pump. 4 out of 5 ive laid my hands on were bad out of the box
    Quote Originally Posted by jcassity
    I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    Codes man. Scan the codes .
    I did that before making this post. The codes were completely irrelevant to the issue I was having.

    I ended up spending about 10 minutes just looking around the engine bay. Started at the grounds that I know I disturbed. Traced them up to the battery. Nothing there. Went to the other side, started by looking at the engine mount, checking the work I did and then noticed that the intake tube popped off when I jacked the engine up. Problem solved.

    I still haven't driven it. A bit too much weather and salt happened recently, so it's just sitting for now.

    I did realize how little time I have until Carlisle, so I'm going to have to dump some money into the car and get some stuff in motion. I have a lot of little stuff to do, and a handful of bigger ticket items I'd like to get done. Either way, the car will be there, but it may or may not be uber stock.
    It's Gumby's fault.

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    Well at least you checked the codes .

    Glad it was a simple fix for you.
    '88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 70mm TB, 76mm C&L MAF, 30lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, AOD with 2800 PI converter, 8.8 with 3.73 gears, 31 spline Traction-Lok, 31 spline Moser axles, 04 Cobra front arms, Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear arms, subframes.
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    i need to come to one of these events,,

    by the way,, how did i miss this thread!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcassity View Post
    i need to come to one of these events,,

    by the way,, how did i miss this thread!!!
    It's pretty easy when you're making windmills out of nuclear reactor parts!

    Not too much to update as of right now. I have the door panel off, got the old, peeling tint off the window, and had to order some new window clips. Now I just need to get off of my ass and put it all back together.
    It's Gumby's fault.

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    So to finally get back to this thread.

    Not much has changed. I did slightly change my overall direction for the car. I was going to go after a build where I wanted everything to look clean and original without being too outwardly different. It would have been almost how the factory *should* have built it. After going to Carlisle, and seeing that the majority of cars went that direction, I decided it was time for something different. Another forum member and I were talking, and while some of the cars were nice, none were really "wow" worthy, or really anything special other than just being a nice car.

    When I bought the car, I was aware that it had been side swiped. The previous owner didn't own the car when it happened, but he made it seem as if it was a minor issue. There was some bondo cracking in the C-pillar, but I didn't feel it was a big issue. I went to do a tail light swap, which was it's own hassle, so I pulled the trunk carpeting out. That's when I noticed that the inside of the left side was painted black. It grabbed my attention, and that's when I realized that it had a rear quarter welded on. I started looking closer, and it was certainly an insurance job. The welds were crap, holes were egged out for panel alignment, sealant was sloppy, and the paint job was mediocre at best. This is when I realized that this car will never be as nice as I hoped.

    I don't have the insane money or skills to do a super sick custom car, nor do I have the money to do a restoration or track down NOS parts. I don't care for show cars. I feel that they are a waste of time and money. I don't want to sit behind my car in a folding chair just to listen to people compliment my car. I also never want to fear driving the car.

    On the flip side of that, I feel that a full race car is a waste of time and money too. I hate the idea of a car that I can only drive under certain conditions, or I can't drive at all other than onto the trailer and to the track.

    So, I'm going to try to land somewhere right in the middle. I'm thinking a 6 or 8 point cage, rear seat delete, race seats, a nice steering wheel, and pursuing some entry level track events. My plans have already been to have handling oriented suspension, and badass brakes. The car will never be 10/10, so I might as well have a reason for it to look a little rough. "Why is the paint rough", "Because race car". "Where is your back seat?", "Race cars don't have a back seat." "Why is it noisy?", "Um, race car". "Why does it ride rough?", "EJECTO SEATO CUZ!"

    So, I've already taken the first step, and removed the air conditioning. Also removed the EGR solenoid and the overboost sensor and some other garbage. I'll have some other stuff to post a bit later on, but I felt the need to preface with my newest goal in mind.
    It's Gumby's fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird232ci View Post

    I don't care for show cars. I feel that they are a waste of time and money. I don't want to sit behind my car in a folding chair just to listen to people compliment my car.
    I agree. I've pretty much given up on the car show thing. Just a bunch of old people sitting around in chairs. Boring. The drives to and from the show are much more fun than the show. So that's basically what I do with mine now. Go for long cruises or occasionally blast down the 1/4 mile. It's all clean and shiny but I do that for me, because I want it to be that way.

    So moving forward what are the suspension/brake plans? Coil over/tubular K in front and SN95/Cobra brakes all around? If you're going to road course and are more worried about handling then I'd just make the 2.3T reliable vs. boosting the hell out of it. If it fits the budget use as many Maximum Motorsports pieces as you can. There stuff has made my car much more enjoyable to drive. It isn't cheap but you get what you pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    I agree. I've pretty much given up on the car show thing. Just a bunch of old people sitting around in chairs. Boring. The drives to and from the show are much more fun than the show. So that's basically what I do with mine now. Go for long cruises or occasionally blast down the 1/4 mile. It's all clean and shiny but I do that for me, because I want it to be that way.
    The local, Saturday night show here starts at 5pm. Most of the people arrive at 4pm and leave by 7pm. Those people are the kind that need to be in bed by 8pm. They all get there, park in the same spot, and set up chairs. I'd rather do that at my house.

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    So moving forward what are the suspension/brake plans? Coil over/tubular K in front and SN95/Cobra brakes all around? If you're going to road course and are more worried about handling then I'd just make the 2.3T reliable vs. boosting the hell out of it. If it fits the budget use as many Maximum Motorsports pieces as you can. There stuff has made my car much more enjoyable to drive. It isn't cheap but you get what you pay for.
    I'm not going with a tubular-K for a long time, if at all really. Maximum Motorsports' tubular does offer geometry benefits, but I'm not aiming to be competitive. I'm just aiming to fix the short-comings of the car.

    As of right now, I have MM's tubular SN95 arms in need of bushings and balljoints. Also have their C/C plates. Also have 94-95 spindles and axles. For short term, I have some cheap shocks/struts/springs I'll use as my car has 225K miles on it and it just needs some love.

    I'll be using 99-04 GT/V6 brakes until I follow through with removing the Teeves system. They're inexpensive and still pretty effective. After that, I'm unsure of where I'll go with brakes. The Cobra stuff is nice, but there are still a lot of other options to explore.

    For certain, I'll be using MM's control arms, torque arm and panhard bar. My goal is to have the money stashed away by the time Black Friday sales start happening. They offer some *okay* sales. I'm hoping to have the TA/PHB for when I take it to the shop to have SFC's and jacking rails welded in and have them do it all in one swoop. After that, I'll determine what spring rates and shocks/struts I want to run.

    It's going to take time since the car does need a lot of work. Every system on the car needs some sort of work. It's a 2.3T so every seal leaks. The 4 banger T5 is notorious for the input shaft being galled up, and mine needs attention. Still has a factory fuel pump. Needs headlight relays. So on and so on.

    As far as power, the 2.3L can safely handle about 400rwhp. I'm not concerned with the strength of parts as much as I am with keeping it cool and the oiling system keeping up. I haven't done much homework to find what it takes to keep a 2.3 happy under sustained load and RPM.
    It's Gumby's fault.

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