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Thread: Back in a fox. 1988 Turbo Coupe. The life journal.

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    I've been finding that there is never enough garage space. I went from no garage to a 20X28 barn converted to a garage to the current 24X24 garage with 12' ceilings and a hoist, and each time it felt huge until I loaded it with crap. My next garage, when I build the retirement palace, is going to be 30X40. Which will probably still not be large enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird232ci View Post
    ... I downshift to come up to the stop light, and when I put my foot on the clutch to come to a stop, the car stalls out. As soon as it stalls out, I hear the distinctive sound of receiving a Facebook message. I crank and crank the car and it sputters to life and dies a few times. I finally get it fired up by keeping it throttled up and I bang a U-turn through a parking lot and zip home....
    Shawn,

    I wonder if you popped off (or loosened a vacuum or intake hose (pre-turbo)...

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    So Saturday, I straightened up the garage a little bit and nosed the TC in for a little bit of love.



    The good ole Motorcraft tune up.

    So me being me, I pulled off the intercooler, and ended up staring at the passenger inner fender well and how crowded it was. BornInAFord set up a BPV, boost controller and cone filter, and while he did a good job, there was just a lot of clutter on that side.

    This is what I started with:





    At this point, I removed the factory boost control solenoid since it was still there, pulled the IRCM and BAP off of the bracket to relocate them, and removed the manual boost controller. I mounted the BAP to the other holes that were already there in the strut tower for other applications. I drilled two holes in the top of the VAM bracket and relocated the IRCM there. Then I moved the boost controller and re-routed the vacuum lines.



    Once that was complete, it was time to address the BPV. There were a lot of complicated and restrictive bends. I ended up pulling the intake tube off so I could rotate the dump tube upward, which required cutting the tube. I was then able to move the hoses around and cut some of the bends out. Leaving me with this:





    Now, I skipped where I did the tune up, because that is a bit redundant. I did take pics of the "carnage".







    As you can see, it needed a tune up pretty bad. None of the components looked old, but they just didn't seem to hold up well.

    In the process, I did disable the EGR and remove the lines, re-route some of the cruise control lines, and broke the BPV. I knocked the damn thing off of the fan shroud and when it hit the ground, I heard that crisp snap of plastic breaking. I sacrificed a vacuum T to the turbo gods and glued it in place of the broken nipple to get it back on the car again. I also ordered a Bosch valve in case this fix didn't hold.

    So after getting the tune up done and the BPV setup cleaned up, the car ran significantly better. It never once stumbled or misfired. It felt like it actually had torque! The only disappointing thing is that the BPV is almost silent now. You can hear it if you listen for it, but it doesn't have that impressive sound anymore.

    I also had it out for it's first car meet. Because of my lack of patience, I threw the car sideways into the entrance of the lot making all kinds of turbo noises, and mostly everyone looked baffled with a silver Thunderbird pulled around. I got out of the car and some friends came up with "where is your car at" or "what made you buy this?" but it was still a good time. It was to be expected bringing out an old man Thunderbird to an FRS/BRZ meet.



    I also went through the one bin that I have here with some various parts and found my Maximum Motorsports c/c plates, some spare clusters, and a few other random parts. I thought that was the bin with my 40bob header, so I'm a little concerned that I may have gotten rid of it when I moved to the house. If I did, I may end up going with a gnari manifold or something custom. I'm not sure yet.
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    Hopefully it'll run a little better for ya now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird232ci View Post
    Good God dude. Why the hell did you move to the other side of the bay?

    You are right, it's been way too long.
    Well, figured I'd give it a shot and there was a pretty nice job available. Plus, building a 10-car garage might actually be possible out here in farm country lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4thqtr View Post
    Well, figured I'd give it a shot and there was a pretty nice job available. Plus, building a 10-car garage might actually be possible out here in farm country lol
    It's a different type of people over there man...guys with big diesel trucks and tiny peckers. Guys who wear camo and vape while listening to country rap. It's a scary place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird232ci View Post
    It's a different type of people over there man...guys with big diesel trucks and tiny peckers. Guys who wear camo and vape while listening to country rap. It's a scary place.
    Isn't that everywhere outside of major cities ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    Isn't that everywhere outside of major cities ?
    So Maryland is a slightly unique case. So outside of Baltimore, there are a lot of white trashy towns (one of which I live in). Outside of D.C. on the Virginia side is rich, but on the Maryland side is a blend of rich, and ghetto. That isn't what makes Maryland unique. The Chesapeake Bay basically splits Maryland and cuts about a third off. That third is almost it's own culture. They have a different accent, different look, everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird232ci View Post
    So Maryland is a slightly unique case. So outside of Baltimore, there are a lot of white trashy towns (one of which I live in). Outside of D.C. on the Virginia side is rich, but on the Maryland side is a blend of rich, and ghetto. That isn't what makes Maryland unique. The Chesapeake Bay basically splits Maryland and cuts about a third off. That third is almost it's own culture. They have a different accent, different look, everything.
    That's different than most states. Mostly it's one big city then the rest of the state likes country music and being "rural", what ever that means.

    Got to live where you like though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    Isn't that everywhere outside of major cities ?
    No. But there are rotten apples under every tree, however, as someone from the other side, who is more at home in a deer stand or in the cab of a Case 1370, the idea of being IN the big city is, in the kindest wording, fucking awful. And I lived for 4 and half years in Springfield Missouri.

    Quote Originally Posted by thunderjet302 View Post
    That's different than most states. Mostly it's one big city then the rest of the state likes country music and being "rural", what ever that means.
    As above, not everyone likes the constant noise, stink, traffic, crime, and dope one finds in the city. I also like to be able to piss off of the front porch and not have to worry about taking a ride downtown in the back of a cop car.

    Don't knock the country life, it's clear you've never lived on a farm, felt the sting of a frosty morning, watching a whitetail buck and jockeying for a clean shot, or smelled the fresh crisp rain of a spring thunderstorm.

    To be fair, I've spent a lot of time big cities, and simply raged and fussed until I could get my ass back home. This particular piece of ground I'm on....I've got ties to this land. My earliest memories are here. I expect to die here, and it would suit me fine to sleep eternally somewhere up north, my carcass nourishing a tree or the like. The lack of crime is a huge bonus. What crime there is can be swiftly dealt with on my own, with a Walther or Mossberg. Of course, in Chicago, you can't hardly call yourself a gun owner AND a law abiding citizen without some distortion of truth. That's any big city, but the Windy City....yeah, Killville.
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