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    Default Seat upgrade ... attempt #2 ...

    Ok, so after my quasi failed attempt at installing Corbeau GTS II seats in my Cougar ... it was back to the drawing board. I was able to physically install the Corbeau seats, but just wasn't happy with my driving position. Instead of deciding to just live with it, I pulled the seats back out, sold them, and reinstalled the '87 Mustang GT buckets I've had in the car for several years. They're great seats, but they have always irritated me a little because they are a lighter gray than my charcoal interior and the driver's side seat suffers from the usual worn out lower leg bolster and it also has a bit of the gangster lean to it ... not my doing, it was like that when I pulled them in the junkyard. I decided staying with a factory setup was going to ultimately get me what I wanted ... something that maintained my current driving position while keeping the seats powered vs. manual, while being able to upgrade the bolstering and materials to better match my charcoal interior.

    Here are Mustang seats that have since been removed from the car and sold:
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    I've had a partial spare Turbo Coupe interior that I bought awhile back. The guy who was parting out the vehicle didn't want to break up some of the interior, so I ended up buying the front seats even though I did not need/want them at the time. As luck would have it though, these seats ended up being the foundation for my project. As I'm sure most of you already know, the Mustang GT seats and Turbo Coupe seats are nearly identical. There are slight variations depending on the model year between our cars as well as the Mustang. In my particular scenario, the '87 Mustang GT seats that I removed have what is classified as a 26" high seat back. When I would move the seat forward to get into the back seat, the headrest would come into contact with the headliner around the sun visor area even with the seat in its lowest position. The Turbo Coupes (and I would assume this for all of the sport seats that came in the Fox Cougar/Tbirds) used the same basic seat except that the seat back is classified as a 24" high seat back.

    Here is the front Turbo Coupe seat that is being modified:
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    Disassembly of the front seats starts with removing the two bolts on the seat back adjustment lever side, disconnecting the air tube for the lumbar, and removal of the single torx head bolt on the other side.
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    After removing the seat tracks from the base of the seat, you're basically left with the bottom part of the seat that consists of the metal frame, the extendable knee bolster, seat foam, upholstery, and the lumbar wiring/tubing.
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    Are you recovering the seats to match the rear seat upholstery?
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    Are you recovering the seats to match the rear seat upholstery?
    Yes and no. More on that to come ... gotta get through all the boring tear down and rebuild portion ... ha! Figured the info might help if anyone else decides to go down this path. I actually bought a semi custom kit for recovering the front seats and upgrading the foam. I'll share all the info in my coming posts. I then bought some spare material from the same company to have the back seat re-done. I'll hold on to the stock back seat and just store it. I'm having the matching blue Turbo Coupe rear seat re-upholstered and will put that in the car. The front seats were originally cloth seats with the attached consolette. I installed a pair of XR-7 seats years ago when I first added the full console, but they were pretty rough and didn't match either. The Mustang ones were a closer match and in better shape so I swapped those in.

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    I figured that's what you were doing

    When I installed a full console in my car I had the front seats re-upholstered at the same time. I just removed the consolette frame from the driver seat. It was tack welded on and came off pretty easily.
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    So is the only difference (other than upholstery and maybe padding) between the Mustang articulated seat the T-Bird/Cougar articulated seat the height of the seat back?

    Back in the day, when riding in a friends Mustang GT, I never felt that the seat was as comfortable as my XR-7 seats. Probably was used to the where the XR-7 seat hit me in the back vs. the Mustang seat but it also seemed more stiff and less cushy as well. So I assumed the Mustang seat's padding was thinner too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCA View Post
    So is the only difference (other than upholstery and maybe padding) between the Mustang articulated seat the T-Bird/Cougar articulated seat the height of the seat back?

    Back in the day, when riding in a friends Mustang GT, I never felt that the seat was as comfortable as my XR-7 seats. Probably was used to the where the XR-7 seat hit me in the back vs. the Mustang seat but it also seemed more stiff and less cushy as well. So I assumed the Mustang seat's padding was thinner too.
    Categorizing the Mustang seats is a bit of a strange beast in and of itself. When talking about the GT sport seats, from my research (and I could be wrong as I'm sure there are differences between GT's, LX's and even convertibles) ... but basically:

    -87-89 used the 26" "high" seat back fully articulated seat with adjustable knee bolster and the large headrest
    -90-91 used the same seat, except with a 24" "low" seat back and small headrests
    -92-93 went back to the 26" "high" seat back, but kept the smaller headrest, and the adjustable knee bolster went away and was just integrated into the lower part of the seat foam as a single piece.

    As far as I can tell, the XR-7 and Turbo Coupe seats have the 24" "low" seat back with the large headrest and the adjustable knee bolster.

    Now, as far as the foam itself is concerned, I would say the foam between the Mustang and the Cougar/Tbird is the same overall size/dimension, but I would also venture to say that you are correct in that they do not have the same density or cushy-ness. Below are shots of the actual seat bottom foam. The Mustang GT one is marked with an "M" from the factory and the Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with a "T". If they were truly the same, I doubt they would be marked in such a way.
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    So looking forward to this thread. I need new seats, mine are the stock LS seats and I would love to get some bird articulated seats. I can never find any around here.
    Mike

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