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    The upper dash could be Dark Charcoal I suppose, but I think whatever this dark gray trim color is, it is was used from 85 to 88. I've mixed and matched the dash trim panels (instrument surround, radio surround, lower switch covers) and the center console trim panels from any number of cars and they have all been this color ... again, outside of any brown interiors.

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    Alright...I found some info in the dealer upholstery books.


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    1986:


    1987:


    1988:




    So according to all this...the 1985 colors aren't very descriptive (and really, neither are the 1983 and 1984 charts, which is why I didn't scan them).

    HOWEVER...the 1986 one starts to get much better as far as describing the colors.

    It looks like the top of Matt's dash is Raven. And that means the dark grey used throughout non-tan interior 1985-88 cars would therefore be Raven. The key is in the description of the steering wheel and steering column...it's consistently listed as Raven from 1986-88, but we know that color was unchanged for 1985, so that has to be it as far as I'm concerned.

    Thoughts?

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    Are they calling "instrument panel" the dash pad? Being the upper is darker than the lower, fits the dark smoke/smoke look of his dash?

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    For 1983-85, the books just listed the overall interior color for the instrument panel. Beginning in 1986 there were actual color breakdowns for the top and bottom. So it's still a guess as to what Matt's 1985 dash top is called, but if it matches the steering wheel and column in color, then it's likely Raven.

    On my '84, the interior is Academy Blue but the dash top pad is actually a very dark blue. It's the only dark blue component in the entire interior. And I don't have a color name for it because the book lists the instrument panel as "Blue". Thanks, Ford, that really helps.

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    Yeah, I think Raven is probably a pretty safe assumption. My dash is original to the car save for the cluster and modified pieces. Just to add a little more complexity to the situation ... several weeks ago, I ordered an NOS ashtray/light switch panel for the back of my full length center console. This piece would have been 85/86 specific (83/84 uses a very similar panel but the panel is more "textured" if you will). While having the part number researched, it was shown in two different colors ... black and brown. I ordered the black assuming that would be correct when I received it ... and it was ... it is also not your traditional "black" by any stretch of the imagination. This is the same color as the rest of the trim pieces in the car. The leather covering on the thinner style armrest is also this same color, so perhaps a Raven leather?
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    That makes sense to me. The console lid would also be Raven to match the leather-wrapped steering wheel (and if so equipped, the leather-wrapped automatic floor shifter handle).

    So I think we have a winner with Raven. I might go to the paint store over the weekend and get some mixed up and put into a spray can. Then dig out some NOS pieces and compare a painted piece to an original. Stay tuned for photos...




    (And for those unfamiliar with the 'brown' trim option...for at least 1985-86, the pieces that would have been Raven—like the steering wheel, column cover, radio and instrument cluster bezel, etc.—were a brown color instead of Raven only on cars with the Sand Beige interior. Apparently Ford felt that the Raven clashed too much with the tan so they created a dark Clove Brown finish to soften the look. But then they switched to Raven in 1987 with Sand Beige so go figure. To this day, Clove Brown trim panels are very, very difficult to find so if you see them, pick them up and hold onto them.)
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    Well this worked out surprisingly well.

    Eric if it works let us know the paint manufacture/paint code. Thanks!
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    So I think we have a winner with Raven. I might go to the paint store over the weekend and get some mixed up and put into a spray can. Then dig out some NOS pieces and compare a painted piece to an original. Stay tuned for photos...
    I was wishing I still had the tints and toners to mix DuPont vinyl to do this. I was thinking about spraying a dark smoke and a raven to see the difference in the two. I still think the darker color on top of those dashes is dark smoke, unless they are raven and just that faded.

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    The darker dash tops could all be a darker version of the lower color ... charcoal gets a dark charcoal top, smoke gets dark smoke, so on and so forth. But you might be splitting hairs to tell the difference between dark charcoal, dark smoke, and raven ... especially once you throw in any amount of fade over the years ... could be very minute. Regardless of the dash top though, I think all of the trim pieces used the same gray from 85-88.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodyman View Post
    I was wishing I still had the tints and toners to mix DuPont vinyl to do this. I was thinking about spraying a dark smoke and a raven to see the difference in the two. I still think the darker color on top of those dashes is dark smoke, unless they are raven and just that faded.

    You might be correct about that. According to the charts, my '86 with Canyon Red interior had a Raven dash top. But it never seemed that dark. Unfortunately it's painted over now but it sure seemed more like a dark charcoal than anything. But I still have some original dash pieces that I can dig up and compare.

    It does seem like DuPont had a lot more accurate information about everything. They give paint codes for things that I've never found through PPG. Maybe DuPont was the OEM supplier. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of cross-shopping for paint where I live...it's PPG or nothing, and it's not like the paint sucks, it's awesome. But now we're looking at missing codes for one brand of paint. And I cannot easily verify DuPont paint codes or test samples. But hell, we've made progress just in this thread alone so maybe I'll just stop and be thankful for what we've got.

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