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    Quote Originally Posted by TOM Renzo View Post
    What I find funny, deisel is a byproduct of refining oil, as is natrual gas and propane. Much of it is vented to the atmosphere or burned as excess.

    NOT TRUE!!!!
    Natrual gas and propane are vented to the atmosphere as well as burned as waste fuel. Deisel isn't.

    Propane is almost always injected back into the ground through the recovery process. If there is too much propane still in the oil, it is further refined and burned off. Only about 12% of recovered propane makes it to consumers.

    Also my state regulates both propane and natrual gas to $1.75 and down to $1.35 when a gallon of gas goes over $4 a gallon.
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    I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
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    Tom, you may be right. Most of my research was done near 2005 as part of a science and biology class for my final project. A lot of my info is probably out of date. Propane and natrual gas used to be wasted a lot, and there were very few twin fuel vehicles.
    Quote Originally Posted by jcassity
    I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
    Hooligans!
    1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
    1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
    1986 cougar.
    lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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    I know they still burn it at the Dartmouth, NS refinery - you can see the flare stack for miles...
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    They actually run those to burn off explosive fumes when the pressure is too high for the system to contain.
    Quote Originally Posted by jcassity
    I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
    Hooligans!
    1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
    1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
    1986 cougar.
    lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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    We have about 5 refineries locally to refine gas through pipelines from wyoming. Two of them are visable frm the freeway and still burn just as thunderchicken said.

    This same plant also had an explosion that killed several people, wounded about a 100 workers, and blew out windows in residential homes several miles away. It passed an epa and osha saftey inspection about 3 weeks before the explosion, and it was even recommened they replace the parts that exploded. They decided it wasn't worth shutting down the plant due to cost of matinence, and loss of production.

    The local chevron refinery has had several pipeline bursts in the same sections over the past couple of years. Local athorities shut them down because it drains into a river where slc gets most of its fresh water. Chevron sucessfully lobbied to get the shut down lifted without any repairs, even after failing soil sample and with evidence of leaks, even before it was cleaned up from the last several spills.

    Regulations don't stop things from happening. Money does.
    Quote Originally Posted by jcassity
    I honestly dont think you could exceed the cost of a new car buy installing new *stock* parts everywhere in your coug our tbird. Its just plain impossible. You could revamp the entire drivetrain/engine/suspenstion and still come out ahead.
    Hooligans!
    1988 Crown Vic wagon. 120K California car. Wifes grocery getter. (junked)
    1987 Ford Thunderbird LX. 5.0. s.o., sn-95 t-5 and an f-150 clutch. Driven daily and going strong.
    1986 cougar.
    lilsammywasapunkrocker@yahoo.com

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    I dunno if money stops things from happening, but a lack of it sure does
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