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    Talking Mid/low 13sec 5.0 project (new video and pics 7/11)

    ***PROJECT TO DO LIST***

    Buy stock 5.0 engine - done
    Disassemble engine - done
    Send short block to machine shop for refresh - done
    Begin gathering parts - done
    Final assembly - done
    Engine Swap - DONE

    Parts list:
    Explorer intake - check
    65mm TB - check
    Stock HO cam - check
    19lb Injectors - check
    GT40Y Aluminum heads - check
    1.7 roller rockers - check
    Fuel pump - check
    Fuel pressure regulator - check


    ***T5 swap list***
    T5 tranny - check
    Bellhousing/fork - check
    Clutch - check
    Flywheel - check
    Pedals - check
    Adjustable cable - check
    Aluminum quadrant - check
    Shifter console piece/boot - check
    Dust shield - check

    Hey guys, it's been a while since I've posted any real updates on my Tbird. Last Thursday, I got 3.27 ratio gears installed and they have made a world of a difference. A lot of people overlook 3.27s in favor of 3.55s or 3.73s, when they're really not needed for a regularly driven car. The 3.27s do the job perfectly, making the car far more responsive and it really gets off the line quickly. It spins at 2000rpm at highway speed, which is about as high as I'd like to go for a DD. I'm planning to get a shift kit and speedo gear soon, but nothing else major till the summer.

    Here are some new pics of the car:


    Shiny cleaned interior


    My friend being a smartass



    After lots of thinking, I've decided to go with a budget 351W build, starting this summer. I'd like to start off with a cheap block (I've seen em on ebay for $400 including shipping) and just work my way through it piece by piece over the next 12-18 months. I'm looking for 350-400hp at the flywheel, and I plan to hook up a WC T5 to it. From the little research I've done, it looks like I'll be much better off going with a carb setup. I'd like to keep this build as cheap as possible (without getting unreliable parts). Any recommendations or comments are welcome.
    Last edited by kingcars; 07-11-2011 at 09:32 PM. Reason: updating title

    1988 Thunderbird Sports Coupe 5.0L (Stella)
    306ci, GT40 intake, 65mm TB and EGR, GT40Y aluminum heads, T5 swap, 8.8 disc rear w/3.55s, 11" front brakes, MM front & rear control arms, front coil overs, Koni yellows
    Stella 2.0 Overhaul
    Retired DD: 1988 Turbo Coupe, 5 speed, 99.9% stock (Michelle)
    Current DD: 2015 Volkswagen GTI SE, 6spd manual (Claire)

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    Looking good . I think you need a 21 tooth purple auto trans gear for your speedo. Your local Ford dealer should have one. It costs ~$10 (that's what I paid for mine about 5 years ago).


    Oh and how do you get your sunglasses to stay in that little cubby spot in the dash? Mine always fly out when I jab the throttle
    '88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 70mm TB, 76mm C&L MAF, 30lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, AOD with 2800 PI converter, 8.8 with 3.73 gears, 31 spline Traction-Lok, 31 spline Moser axles, 04 Cobra front arms, Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear arms, subframes.
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    Haha a lot of times, the sun glasses will be hanging out, but somehow stay in there. I'm wearing them most of the time though...or they just go flying somewhere.

    1988 Thunderbird Sports Coupe 5.0L (Stella)
    306ci, GT40 intake, 65mm TB and EGR, GT40Y aluminum heads, T5 swap, 8.8 disc rear w/3.55s, 11" front brakes, MM front & rear control arms, front coil overs, Koni yellows
    Stella 2.0 Overhaul
    Retired DD: 1988 Turbo Coupe, 5 speed, 99.9% stock (Michelle)
    Current DD: 2015 Volkswagen GTI SE, 6spd manual (Claire)

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    sweet. still one of my favorite cars here. i personally would rather see you go with a used blower or a decent heads, cam intake etc. combo.
    a 351W would be sweet BUT im sort of anti carb. not a fan at all. id keep it f.i. id probably actually build a 331 instead. find a cheap powerdyne or used vortech, paxton or ati and throwit on there. it would keep the powerband up higher where i think it should be on a street car.

    id also probably get a rebuild kit from g force and rebuild a T5 with that instead of a new stock one. that or a T56.

    either way, good luck dude. keep it up.
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    Not to change the topic, but your interior looks really nice. I'm liking those door panels. simple, maybe even better than my TC panels. I also like the more sturdy/built in map pockets... probably won't fall off like all the TC ones!

    hmm... I wonder if I should pic some of those up.....?
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    Thanks for the compliments. I always try to keep the interior armor all'd and clean, but it hadn't been really vacuumed out in a while. It's definitely what I consider to be one of the best attributes of my car. The previous owner took great care of it and I plan to keep it that way.

    @shame302: If I can do what you said for the same price or cheaper, and get about the same performance, I'm all for it! I'm still researching my options at the moment, so things can change.

    Here's an interior shot from the other side:


    1988 Thunderbird Sports Coupe 5.0L (Stella)
    306ci, GT40 intake, 65mm TB and EGR, GT40Y aluminum heads, T5 swap, 8.8 disc rear w/3.55s, 11" front brakes, MM front & rear control arms, front coil overs, Koni yellows
    Stella 2.0 Overhaul
    Retired DD: 1988 Turbo Coupe, 5 speed, 99.9% stock (Michelle)
    Current DD: 2015 Volkswagen GTI SE, 6spd manual (Claire)

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    im with shame on keeping the 302 block. you need to remember that a lot of your 302 parts wont work on the 351w. headers, oilpan, intake, distributor, etc.
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    Yeah, I'm not planning to use anything from my current engine (it will be going in another project at a later time). This is a fresh build. If it's cheap and easy to take a stock 302 block and get that same performance out of it for the same price or less, I'll definitely look into it.

    1988 Thunderbird Sports Coupe 5.0L (Stella)
    306ci, GT40 intake, 65mm TB and EGR, GT40Y aluminum heads, T5 swap, 8.8 disc rear w/3.55s, 11" front brakes, MM front & rear control arms, front coil overs, Koni yellows
    Stella 2.0 Overhaul
    Retired DD: 1988 Turbo Coupe, 5 speed, 99.9% stock (Michelle)
    Current DD: 2015 Volkswagen GTI SE, 6spd manual (Claire)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingcars View Post
    Haha a lot of times, the sun glasses will be hanging out, but somehow stay in there. I'm wearing them most of the time though...or they just go flying somewhere.
    I'm not the only one
    '88 Thunderbird LX: 306, Edelbrock Performer heads, Comp 266HR cam, Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Edelbrock 70mm TB, 76mm C&L MAF, 30lb injectors, 2.5" exhaust, AOD with 2800 PI converter, 8.8 with 3.73 gears, 31 spline Traction-Lok, 31 spline Moser axles, 04 Cobra front arms, Maximum Motorsports extreme duty rear arms, subframes.
    '11 Focus, '12 Mustang 3.7, '17 Accord EX-L V6

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    I wouldn't even consider the bigger Windsor block uness it was punched to 393 cubes or better....The TFS H/C/I combo is right at the lower end of your HP needs....

    If I were to do it again I'd have ported the heads and done up a custom cam and got even more out of it...
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