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    Eric, I would like to compare my freshly painted parts to your NOS parts at Cat Jam to see how close the color match is.
    Sure thing...just remind me if I forget.
    Glad to hear we might have a choice, though. Thanks for doing the legwork on this.

    What about the tag holder though? Without spending all night digging through all my stuff, it seems that all the factory pictures don't show front tags.
    Well, I just redid mine on the '84. It's a flat black of your choice, no grey shades at all.

    The cowl cover piece...it's as Brent says. I have my original rusted '84 piece that you can examine, if you wish. Mine got replaced with an '88 panel that seems to have been powdercoated from the factory; it's also a black color with just a hint of a shine. So flat-to-semigloss black is good. I usually recommend a little shine to help prevent acid rain etching (and therefore rust).

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    Eric,

    If you would call around your area and find a paint store with a paint code camera they can snap a pic of those parts and it makes a exact match paint code . A little trouble but well worth the effort.

    Mike

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    Mike, that's a good last resort; the guy that painted my car has access to one of those. I'm trying not to do that unless I need to, though, because he has to pull a lot of strings to get it. Karl and I will definitely have an answer, one way or another, in less than 10 days, comparing the parts we have...guess we'll go from there afterwards. Hopefully we've got a ready-made solution with the SEM paint.

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    OK,

    I didnt think it was an issue like that but maybe so depending on the paint supplier. I have several buddys that paint cars here and just recently I restored 2 Elsinores and had 1 buddy take my old tank to the paint supplier which snapped the paint code on the spot and made the 2 colors needed, I figured since you had the NOS parts you could take them in and get it done that way. Actually I thought about my suggestion after I posted and realized this guy wants to use a spray bomb to paint his parts rather than a gun. My Apologies

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATSMusic View Post
    OK,

    I didnt think it was an issue like that but maybe so depending on the paint supplier. I have several buddys that paint cars here and just recently I restored 2 Elsinores and had 1 buddy take my old tank to the paint supplier which snapped the paint code on the spot and made the 2 colors needed, I figured since you had the NOS parts you could take them in and get it done that way. Actually I thought about my suggestion after I posted and realized this guy wants to use a spray bomb to paint his parts rather than a gun. My Apologies
    Uh, yeah. This guy wants to go the more expensive, complex route of spraying it himself instead of going through the quick and inexpensive process outlined above.
    I guess anything learned from this won't be useful for the rest of the community since they all take their B-pillar trim to their buddies who are professional paint sprayers and have time to do this for $10 or less.
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    Back from the dead...looking back over the entries I see that we never did post a resolution so here we go...

    First I showed mine to Karl and then he showed me his.

    His paint was just a hair lighter than my NOS parts. It was a pretty decent match overall...although I've got a keen eye for that sort of thing and it would personally bother me that the paint would be lighter. But that's just me. I still believe that the solution lies within SEM's stock paint range, just haven't had the time/money to do any more trials. I've also heard from a few people that other companies' bumper paints have dark greys that may be close. This spring I hope to have enough time to do some more in-depth study of this, but for now I believe Karl has a pretty good solution with his efforts.

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    i know where i work we have paint chips that go way back. so when i need something like this i head to the paint chips. i know you guys are all thinking paint chips aren't those for the exterior paint. yep but they also have them for trim/interior/under hood so you guys might just try to head to a decent paint shop and ask to see there older paint chips.
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    here are some paint chips to look at.



    i know those all say exterior and interior no trim right. if you read this on the back of the 1st page then you will see you look up the trim code in the book and it shows you witch one of them is that color here is that info


    hope this helps you guys

    ps also note that on the 2nd page it give us the paint code to the blacked out trim and window moldings on the bird or cougar.
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    if you need a formula for the ppg 33717 it is available
    in single stage Concept. has to be sprayed from a gun
    and a special activtor used.on my 86 capri 5.0 i used it
    on all trim, mlgs, and the lower part of the car. it is a
    low gloss color.--irv
    85-6 mustang GT's use it for their trim too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricCoolCats View Post
    My conclusion:

    There's an ever-so-slight difference in color between the pieces. Otherwise they are in the same league as far as finish (flat-to-semigloss) and color. These pieces haven't seen sunlight until these photos.

    If it's not storming in the next few days, I'll get some close-up outdoor shots of the '84's B-pillars and molding.
    Quote Originally Posted by EricCoolCats View Post
    Back from the dead...looking back over the entries I see that we never did post a resolution so here we go...

    First I showed mine to Karl and then he showed me his.

    His paint was just a hair lighter than my NOS parts. It was a pretty decent match overall...although I've got a keen eye for that sort of thing and it would personally bother me that the paint would be lighter. But that's just me. I still believe that the solution lies within SEM's stock paint range, just haven't had the time/money to do any more trials. I've also heard from a few people that other companies' bumper paints have dark greys that may be close. This spring I hope to have enough time to do some more in-depth study of this, but for now I believe Karl has a pretty good solution with his efforts.
    My conclusion is that SEM 39163 is about as best as it's going to get from a can. For starters, there is an ever-so-slight difference between those NOS pieces as Eric said. The color of my parts that were painted with SEM 39163 was right in between the two shades of those NOS parts - a hair, and I mean a hair lighter than one and a hair darker than the other, and I'm pretty anal about this sort of thing. For those that don't want to go through the hassle of mixing paint and buying spray guns and all of that (like me) and unless you are competing against 90-plus point cars, you should be happy with SEM 39163.
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