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Tbird232ci
09-24-2005, 11:08 AM
I was going to keep it all under wraps untill it was done, or almost done, but im bored, so im posting it here

http://webpost.net/tc/tctbird87/fiveoh.jpg

http://webpost.net/tc/tctbird87/fiveoh2.jpg

http://webpost.net/tc/tctbird87/fiveoh3.jpg

no, its not assembled, i just set the heads and intakes on it, and for the hell of it, i stuck the headers on it

the plans for it right now are basically fully tear down the short block, clean everything the best i possibly can with what i have, reassemble it, stuff an HO cam in it, HO upper and throttle body, and gather all the other stuff i need for the swap, which will all come in time

still need a water pump (not gonna be a factory one, youll see later on), oil pump, oil pickup, head bolts, intake bolts, mounts, and all kinds of that small stuff that i dont have just yet

theres a lot im doing that im not going to post, not yet anyways, its not for going fast, but its just a setup i want to run, maybe next time i get bored, ill post it up

i also need to take some other pics, i have a distributor sitting in it, and valve covers sitting on it

TurboCoupe50
09-24-2005, 11:46 AM
The power to weight ratio with the engine on that stand is gonna just be awesome... :D

SirChirpAlot
09-24-2005, 01:46 PM
Well take your time and dont rush things.

Tbird232ci
09-24-2005, 02:47 PM
The power to weight ratio with the engine on that stand is gonna just be awesome... :D
the problem is trying to hook up on those steel wheels, and trying to make it down the track on the casters up front

Blown306Cougar
09-24-2005, 06:35 PM
shawn what brand headers are those?

are they the flowtech 12104's ie 387-12104's from jegs?

BEARMAX
09-24-2005, 08:03 PM
that look's like a engin stand from advance auto

vinnietbird
09-24-2005, 09:45 PM
You do have an H.O. computer don't you?

Tbird232ci
09-25-2005, 12:40 AM
shawn what brand headers are those?

are they the flowtech 12104's ie 387-12104's from jegs?
They sure are, as long as they fit, i dont care, they can leak a bit, its no big deal, theyre only going on the car because i have them laying around


that look's like a engin stand from advance auto
It sure is


You do have an H.O. computer don't you?
Sure do, and a harness, and a superchips module

Blown306Cougar
09-25-2005, 01:27 AM
They sure are, as long as they fit, i dont care, they can leak a bit, its no big deal, theyre only going on the car because i have them laying around

*yoda*flowtech's they are you have..

*yoda* have fun installing them you will!!

*yoda* the force is strong with them they are!!!


i own them... enjoy installing them.. i did'nt :shoothead

you won't be able to use the stock 3180/3186 starter. you will have to use the late model starter 3205 or after market mini starter

but they will fit!!! but not fun!!

Blown306Cougar
09-25-2005, 01:29 AM
more

Haystack
09-25-2005, 10:25 AM
I kinda saw this coming

Tbird232ci
09-25-2005, 11:12 AM
The fitment isnt too much of a big deal, my engine bay will mostly be empty, and since i havnt aquired a started yet, ill be on the lookout for one that will work

what made them oh-so-fun to get in, i see on the drivers side, one of the primarys kicks out pretty far

Blown306Cougar
09-25-2005, 11:25 AM
well since they are equal length long tubes.. all tubes fit tight everywhere..

oh and you asked about the one tube that sticks out real far on the drivers side well :giggle: that goes around the steering shaft..

since i have had mine "about 3years" i don't know if they changed anything about them..

Shawn how meny slip flanges does your headers have? "removable headertubes" i think just about all of mine are except three of them i think..
the one that goes around the steering shaft should be removable


Nick

Tbird232ci
09-25-2005, 11:36 AM
i havnt looked, and i dont quite feel like looking right now, but ill grab a picture or two and post them

question on the starter, Eric mentions a later model starter thats smaller, and a little write up on coolcats

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/starter.html

that one there, thats the one id want?

Blown306Cougar
09-25-2005, 12:40 PM
yep like i said in an earlyer post the part number is 3205 thats the basic aftermarket part number..

Haystack
09-25-2005, 02:03 PM
Yeah just order it for a 90 crown vic. I got one for mine with a 91 crown vic pulled at the junk yard as a core. Cost me like $45

pro-five-oh
09-25-2005, 02:52 PM
90-92 Mark VIIs and 1993 Mustangs used the hi-torque mini starterr...shouldn't be too hard to find one at a boneyard.

SLEEPER T-BIRD 87
09-25-2005, 05:07 PM
same headers i have on my 88

you can use the factory starter it is tight but fits ok

there is interferance with the motor mounts and with the steering shaft a small hammer will fix that no problem


what is sad it is tighter with a 302 then the ones on my 429

jlewis05
10-04-2005, 01:02 PM
Where's the terrrbo...gimme more cowbell...

bondocougar
10-05-2005, 07:55 PM
Looks real sweet. Looks like a great project lined up for the coming winter!

But from Blown's pics those headers are definitely going to be tight!

What car are you putting this beast in?

Tbird232ci
10-05-2005, 10:12 PM
This is going into my 3.8L bird, the red one.

I just got an HO upper intake assembly, some 19# injectors, and the HO valve covers today

Tbird232ci
10-05-2005, 11:18 PM
and this is my new find

ill spend some time tomorrow cleaning up, and hopefully getting my friend to bead blast em for me, along with the lower and the timing cover

V8Demon
10-05-2005, 11:59 PM
I don't know if I missed this or not, but did you grenade the 3.8 or is it just time for more power?

Tbird232ci
10-06-2005, 12:15 AM
i couldnt grenade my 3.8 if i wanted to

i severly overheated it twice, theres a few threads around about it, but i drove it at about 95mph, temp gauge pegged, lost all coolant, TWICE, each time for over 20 minutes, and the damn thing still starts and runs with a fresh battery, but with my luck, the day i take it up the street, my headgaskets will pop

so its time for more power, and time for something more reliable

V8Demon
10-06-2005, 03:01 PM
I remember those threads. Just thought I mighta missed someting though.



so its time for more power, and time for something more reliable

I couldn't agree more.....http://www.foxtbirdcougarforums.com/showthread.php?t=5044

Funky Cricket
10-06-2005, 04:52 PM
hell. you want reliable get a I6, my mom (bless her stupid heart) drove my capri 40 miles with no oil, spun 2 bearings. I had to get it home, so i drove it with 2 spun bearings 80 miles, it was still getting 35lbs of oil pressue before i rebuilt it, and the bearings were THRASHED! now that is a tough motor.

Tbird232ci
10-06-2005, 05:32 PM
hell. you want reliable get a I6, my mom (bless her stupid heart) drove my capri 40 miles with no oil, spun 2 bearings. I had to get it home, so i drove it with 2 spun bearings 80 miles, it was still getting 35lbs of oil pressue before i rebuilt it, and the bearings were THRASHED! now that is a tough motor.
if i was really worried about reliability, id pick up an old 80's chevette, my aunt did everything in her power to kill hers, she drove it through a shallow pond, id died in the pond, the pulled it out, pulled the plugs, turned it over a few times, threw the plugs bag in, and drove it home

Funky Cricket
10-07-2005, 02:19 PM
we had a 1980 bright orange chevette. the only thing that ever when wrong on that little 4 banger was one lifter when bad during cross country vacation trip. there were 4 of us in that thing in 1983, mom, dad, me and sis.. that was one of the best cars we ever owned. had it for 13 years and put almost 300K on it. front end finally just fell out of it and we junked it. my sister cried, it was the only car she ever remeber from when she was a kid (got it when she was 1 for gods sake)

edit: sorry to hi-jack, keep us updated on the swap. i am pretty sure you will enjoy the new motor!! hehe.

Tbird232ci
10-07-2005, 02:44 PM
shortly, ill have a list of the things i can remember that i need for my swap, so i can start tackling those little items

so far, if i remember correctly, ive spent nothing on this engine, other than...2 bucks

Tbird232ci
10-07-2005, 02:56 PM
Head Bolts
spark plugs
plug wires
upper motor mount brackets
fuel rail extension
water pump and bolts
alternator bracket
TV cable assembly or T5 setup
serpentine belt
electric fan and controller
battery tray and cables (for now, itll end up in the trunk)

since most of this stuff isnt going to be a factory setup (water pump, alt bracket, belt), ect, ill actually have to buy it, but the TV cable, fuel rail extensions, and the other small stuff i might run into will be easy to get ahold of

CougarSE
10-07-2005, 09:45 PM
Love the new sig there shawn.

Tbird232ci
10-07-2005, 10:05 PM
thanks dude, its my favorite one yet