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Extinct
09-08-2005, 10:43 PM
I saw this ad in the local paper and wanted opinions if this is worth buying....
BORG Warner T-5 trans, c/w bellhousing, ped assembly, clutch & flywhl $600 obo.Can.
To my knowledge its suppose to work, but I really know nothing about trannies cept that they seem real expensive :I
THank you...I'm such a burdon at times :(

88turbo
09-08-2005, 10:49 PM
borg warner is what came in the turbo coupes they arent bad trannys

ThunderbirdSport302
09-09-2005, 12:26 PM
might call and see what it came out of, if I recall correctly, some Camaros came with em..
my point is, make sure it's what ya need (input shaft, bellhousing), before ya spend money.

TurboCoupe50
09-09-2005, 12:29 PM
Yea be sure what it's from, but $600 for a complete 5.0 setup thats in good cond ain't a bad deal.

If its the 4cyl trans, you don't want it ...

oldraven
09-09-2005, 01:29 PM
If its the 4cyl trans, you don't want it ...

Does that go for TC T-5's too? Or just the Ranger/Mustang 2.3n/a T-5's? If so, why not? Is the TC tranny less durable than 302 Mustang T-5's?

cougarman
09-09-2005, 02:01 PM
Does that go for TC T-5's too? Or just the Ranger/Mustang 2.3n/a T-5's? If so, why not? Is the TC tranny less durable than 302 Mustang T-5's?
1) yes
2) yes :D
most times they don't last long behind a 5.0. :nono:

TurboCoupe50
09-09-2005, 02:22 PM
Does that go for TC T-5's too? Or just the Ranger/Mustang 2.3n/a T-5's? If so, why not? Is the TC tranny less durable than 302 Mustang T-5's?

The 4cyl Strang tranny is identical to the TC unit. They have a 240ft lb rating, so it ain't gonna live behind a 5.0 if you go rippin' on it. The better 5.0 trannys are in the 310-330 ft lb rating, but some of the early ones were as low as 265 ft lb. Also the gears are a lot deeper in the 4cyl trans, 1st is 3.97 vs 3.35(early) or 2.95 for the 5.0 trans. The 2.95 1st gear trannys are stronger than the 3.35 units. I busted one of the 3.35 gear trannys in a stock 5.0 Stang.

As far as the Rangers getting T5s maybe the late ones, but most have the junky MR52, same as the Super Coupes.

Extinct
09-09-2005, 07:34 PM
Thanks for the info guys, tryin to get in touch with the guy now.

Oh would it be practical to buy one of these 4 cyl T5's and rebuild it for V8 performance cause those 4 cyl trannies are dirt cheap and plentiful around here.

TurboCoupe50
09-09-2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the info guys, tryin to get in touch with the guy now.

Oh would it be practical to buy one of these 4 cyl T5's and rebuild it for V8 performance cause those 4 cyl trannies are dirt cheap and plentiful around here.

NOPE.... Just about everything is different, including the case.. The 4cyl trans uses a larger front bearing because of the different gears required for the deep 1st gear ratio, so it actually is machined differently(otherwise it would be the same).

Extinct
09-09-2005, 10:59 PM
Well FordTruckFreeek was right it came out of a camero, the guy did say it was possible to get a different cluch thingy and flywheel and bellhousing and it should work. I'll look into that tommorrow before moving on to a new plan.
Thanks again peoples :)

TurboCoupe50
09-10-2005, 07:53 AM
The shifter is farther up toward the case on most of the GM units, also the output shaft is different(27 splines vs 28).... Would take a lot of adapting...

Mercoug302
09-10-2005, 12:56 PM
The 4cyl Strang tranny is identical to the TC unit. They have a 240ft lb rating, so it ain't gonna live behind a 5.0 if you go rippin' on it. The better 5.0 trannys are in the 310-330 ft lb rating, but some of the early ones were as low as 265 ft lb. Also the gears are a lot deeper in the 4cyl trans, 1st is 3.97 vs 3.35(early) or 2.95 for the 5.0 trans. The 2.95 1st gear trannys are stronger than the 3.35 units. I busted one of the 3.35 gear trannys in a stock 5.0 Stang.

As far as the Rangers getting T5s maybe the late ones, but most have the junky MR52, same as the Super Coupes.

I thought that only the FMS trannys had the 2.95 1st gear (T-5Z) with the 330 ft/lb capacity (better OD ratio also, 0.63:1 vs 0.68:1) mainly because it's for guys who have done mods to their cars with rear gears. It's my understanding that all 5.0's from 1987 up to 1993 had the 3.35:1 1st gear with only a 10 ft/lb higher capacity after 1990.