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50RACER
01-30-2013, 03:42 PM
Has anyone installed a set of the Moser C clip eliminators on an 8.8 rear from a Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with disc brakes? Mine is an 87. If so, any info or recommendations for any unforseen difficulties that one might encounter?

SLEEPER T-BIRD 87
01-30-2013, 06:22 PM
most will not work with disc brakes. call moser and make sure

STANG8U
01-30-2013, 06:48 PM
Yeah I was just going to say I've never done one with disks

Make shure to use silicone on the ends of the axle tubes or they will leak

50RACER
01-30-2013, 09:56 PM
most will not work with disc brakes. call moser and make sure

I did call Moser and traded a bunch of emails with them. It actually appears that the Turbo Coupe backing plate makes the installation better because you already have a flat surface to attach to versus the style on the SN95 Mustang that apparently needs some milling to make it fit. I was just hoping to see if someone already had some real experience with this installation and had run into anything unforseen that needed to be addressed.

87 T-BIRD
01-31-2013, 08:29 AM
31461I did a C-Clip Eliminator kit on my Bird using the rear end out of a older fox body with the SN95 axles and SN95 disc brakes along with some good Ford black silicone(Its been together for about 8 or 9 years and they haven't leaked yet). I made my own bracket for the calipers out of a 1/4 thick steel plate. My Bird is only for drag racing. I do agree with Tom about not using them on the street, they do make a nine inch end kit for the housing so you can use that style bearing for the street.

50RACER
01-31-2013, 09:25 AM
Sorry, I did forget to mention this will strictly be a footbrake drag car. I'd love to use the 9 in., but I'm too poor for that at the moment. Gotta use what I got for the time being.

Lightningbird
01-31-2013, 05:44 PM
I am also poor and converted to 10" drums from a Ranger to make it all work well and get those coveted 5 lugs. If you are planning on going any where near the 10's, I would convert to the 5 lug.
I do not think that you should not have too many issues as I just completed mine with a strange set up and it is no larger than the axle flange assembly of the rearend. It fit well and was not in the way of my drum set up. WIth that said, I do believe that it will fit nicely behind your rotor without any clearance issues.

50RACER
01-31-2013, 11:31 PM
Yes, the plan is to go with 5 lug 31 spline axles and a spool.

STANG8U
02-01-2013, 12:02 AM
31 spline is a safe investment .......stock 28 on a race day uhh lol


http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m550/pooppoop13/utf-8BcG9vcC5qcGc.jpg

Lightningbird
02-01-2013, 04:45 PM
I just did 35 spline and a spool from strange, converted to 5 lug and c clip eliminated all at the same time. It was not really expensive and I set the gears up myself. I also converted the pinion flange to a 1350 style from strange.

50RACER
02-01-2013, 07:25 PM
I just did 35 spline and a spool from strange, converted to 5 lug and c clip eliminated all at the same time. It was not really expensive and I set the gears up myself. I also converted the pinion flange to a 1350 style from strange.

What did you do on your rear brake set up?

fordguy545
02-02-2013, 12:47 AM
I'm a little interested in the cclip eliminators too, but at this point I'm still using the c-clips with my moser axles and detroit trutrac, especially being an autox car. Somehow, I'm a bit leery of them though.

Also sometimes a 9" isn't as strong as you think it is
31 spline stock axles
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Fordguy545/axle%20destruction/SNV30552.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Fordguy545/axle%20destruction/SNV30564.jpg

STANG8U
02-02-2013, 08:54 PM
You can also have 9" ends welded to a 8.8

Stock axles are wack

Lightningbird
02-03-2013, 10:21 AM
What did you do on your rear brake set up?

Used ranger 10" x 2.5" drum assembly. Used Aerostar 1" wheel cylinders for some piston area and explorer light weight drums

bryan163
02-03-2013, 10:43 AM
Kind of a bummer that c-clip eliminators don't work well for cornering. I wanted to run a spool at some point for drifting, but that's not gonna happen without c-clip eliminators. Guess I'll be sticking with the welded 8.8 I put together for this year.

87 T-BIRD
02-03-2013, 11:24 AM
If you want to run a spool for drifting, then buy the 9 inch weld on kit that they have for the 8.8 rears.
Kind of a bummer that c-clip eliminators don't work well for cornering. I wanted to run a spool at some point for drifting, but that's not gonna happen without c-clip eliminators. Guess I'll be sticking with the welded 8.8 I put together for this year.

bryan163
02-03-2013, 11:38 AM
If you want to run a spool for drifting, then buy the 9 inch weld on kit that they have for the 8.8 rears.

I was hoping someone would chime in with a solution:D I'm assuming that will require custom length 9" axles to work with the wider turbo coupe rear. My other question is, are the 9" axles compatible with an 8.8 spool?

87 T-BIRD
02-03-2013, 11:51 AM
If you contact an axle company like Strange, Mark Williams or Moser, they can put together everything you need to assemble your setup. If you tell them you want a certain length axle with a 9 inch bearing setup and the 9 inch bearing ends for the 8.8 and a 31 or 33 spline axle and spool to fit an 8.8, they can.

bryan163
02-03-2013, 03:04 PM
Good to know! That might be next seasons setup, since this seasons rear is all ready assembled. Might get it installed tonight.
http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu352/bryan163photobucket/IMAG0095.jpg

87thunderbirdBlackJack
02-06-2013, 09:29 AM
Bryan, you should really look into an axle brace CHE has them for the mustang, I'm sure they have them for our 8.8's Doing the hard stuff to your axle that you do. Ive seen 7.5's and 8.8's blow the tubes right off of it. Its that little bit of extra security. it wraps around the pig and bolts to the bottom of the diff cover and also bolts to where the dogbone dampener is then branches out to the LCA mounts Its a pretty trick setup.

My buddy had a 78 zephyr he was hot rodding it real good after work one day slid it sideways and it bounced because he tromped it and blew the axle tube right out.
http://www.cheperformance.com/cartgenie/images/large/CHE9B2.jpg

bryan163
02-06-2013, 09:42 AM
That's a pretty sexy piece of hardware. I'd like to get my hands on that girdle cover too.

Aerocoupe
02-07-2013, 02:18 PM
Its pretty but welding the axle tubes to the center section would pretty much to the same thing if a person thought to do it during a rear end build. The other part is having access to a welding rig and a welder that know how to do it correctly. For me that piece would not work with a torque arm so its out of the question. I think it would even get in the way of a panhard bar and would be a no go with a Watts Link. Again, someone with these components would most likely have access to a welder and work over the rear end welding the tubes and putting on the nine inch ends.

I cannot stress to you guys enough to not run C-Clip eliminators road racing. They may work for a duration of time but they will eventually start leaking and most likely when you least need it to happen. Almost every manufacturer of them will have a disclaimer about street and road racing use.

Darren

50RACER
02-07-2013, 05:19 PM
I thought the same thing. I'll just make sure it's straight and weld the tubes when I have it out for the rebuild.

Lightningbird
02-07-2013, 07:01 PM
I just welded the tubes to the housing and added the UPR braces. Should be good enough for the 9's.

http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-888-rear-end-braces.html

Aerocoupe
02-08-2013, 11:28 AM
Those look nice and keep everything tucked up nice and tight. Might even be able to make a torque arm work with them as well.

Darren

Lightningbird
02-09-2013, 01:22 PM
That's exactly what I said, just sayin............