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vinnietbird
01-04-2005, 10:13 PM
Does anyone happen to have a shift cable from a floor shifted '88 T-Bird or Cougar?I've been looking for one,and was hoping someone here could help.Thanks.Also need the brackets.

vinnietbird
01-26-2005, 07:58 AM
Anybody??????

Tbird232ci
01-27-2005, 12:47 AM
theyre hard to come by

vinnietbird
01-27-2005, 07:36 AM
No kidding.I've been looking for a very long time.They must be made of unobtanium.

Tbird232ci
01-27-2005, 11:22 AM
well, you gotta think, if the cables are AOD specific (different in the TC), they only came in 87-88's, and how many 87-88 cars got a floor shifter?

if you can find out if the cable is the same between the TC's and the 5.0 cars, you could hop onto a place like turbotbird.com or turboford.or and post a wanted add there

cougarman
01-27-2005, 11:39 AM
A couple years back, I priced one from the Ford dealer for my '87 XR7, $168.50 :shoothead . I ended up installing a B&M console hammer for $199 complete, better shifter and heavier duty cable. Also the replacement B&M cables are only $39.00. :grinno:

EricCoolCats
01-27-2005, 11:43 AM
Cable are different Shawn...remember it would be an A4LD shifter vs. an AOD shifter. Aside from that, I am not really sure if you can easily separate a cable from the shifter anyway. It looks like the end gets destroyed if you try. It's easier to get the shifter and cable assembly as one unit.

Tbird232ci
01-27-2005, 12:34 PM
Ford actually has a special tool for removing those crazy little bushings, so you dont damage the items youre working on

as for the cables, i knew the shifters were different, but i thought the cable may be the same, because the difference would only be in the shifter?

EricCoolCats
01-27-2005, 01:40 PM
Naw, the cable ends are different where they hook onto the transmission, and also where the cable is held into the bracket. Like on the 5.0 bracket, there are two screws that hold the cable on; on the 2.3 there's just a clip. They seem to be different lengths as well.

Special tool, eh?

vinnietbird
01-27-2005, 01:54 PM
Does the Hammer shifter fit where the factory shifter is in the console?I thought about going to a column shift.That doesn't bother me at all.I just don't know if the column shift linkage will fit with the Mark VII headers in place.Anyone know?Any ideas?My current shifter sucks because I'm making do with the wrong cable.

cougarman
01-27-2005, 02:18 PM
The shifter fits anywhere on the floor you want to put them. Althogh the console hammer requires a hole, just like the factory floor shifter.

cougarman
01-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Well I went out and cleared the snow off, and here is a pic of the console hammer in my Cougar. :boobies:

Tbird232ci
01-27-2005, 02:49 PM
Special tool, eh?
yup, if i can find a pic, or even a description of it, ill post it

vinnietbird
01-28-2005, 06:49 AM
Thanks.The more I think about it,the better a column shift sounds.

Bird351
01-28-2005, 07:41 AM
Now now, that's my line. :p

(and only because every car I've ever driven regularly has had a console/floor shifter, and I'm only keeping my two column-shifted cars that way for a little change)

MasterBlaster
01-28-2005, 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricCoolCats
Special tool, eh?

yup, if i can find a pic, or even a description of it, ill post itYou mean one of these?

Tbird232ci
01-28-2005, 09:11 AM
there it is! thats actually the exact picture i saw somewhere

vinnietbird
01-28-2005, 05:55 PM
I've got the column,the tranny shift lever, and the linkage for the swap.I'm just not sure if it will clear the headers.I know one way to find out................2 hours and a sunny day.

dominator
01-28-2005, 06:25 PM
Hey vin what's up,got those parts, lisc plate bracket is mint but i don't think the autolamp sensor works.
No biggy.
Anyways about your problem you have 2 options you can use a mustang aod floor shifter and modify the bracket a bit to fit like i did then just get the selector and console plate out of a tc and make it fit by drilling to small holes and using the sell taping bolts that come with it, the only problem will be 2nd gear on the selector will be 1/2 on the aod, 7 detents on the tc vs 6 on the aod, not a big deal.
Or install the column shift(alot more work)and move the linkage bracket on the k member about half an inch down from the original bolt holes and drill out 2 new holes,then install 2 nuts,lock washers and bolts and yer set.
You will then be able to select 1/2 without the linkage hitting the H pipe.
You may also have to notch one bracket to stop it from hitting the o2 sensor,i did all that and it worked mint for 6 years on my first bird, should only take about an hour so.

vinnietbird
01-28-2005, 07:51 PM
Sounds good to me.I'll check on another sensor for you.A deal is a deal.Glad the liscence plate frame was good for you.If you need anything,let me know.I'll do what I can.

vinnietbird
01-30-2005, 03:56 PM
Hey,I was looking through my Haines manual,and saw that,according to them,there was a shift rod that worked where the cable for the floor shifter goes.I'm going to investigate,and I'll keep you posted.

MasterBlaster
01-31-2005, 06:32 AM
according to them,there was a shift rodYeah, I was thinking of that years ago when I grabbed a floor shifter (and chiseled the mounting pad out of the floor using a screwdriver and a rock) and found out I'd have to take the tranny and valve body apart to flip the lever over (I'm lazy).

Then I noticed some Mustangs in the wrecking yard with rods, and discovered early Birds did too.

Then I thought about keeping most of the column linkage, and creating a rod to connect the shifter to some part of the old linkage.

Then I thought about using a long cable along the underside of the body, curving up to somehow connect with the fully intact linkage (but removing the old lever from the column) so locking the steering wheel would lock the trans too.

Then I put everything in a box in the closet, where it's been sitting ever since, probably never to be used.

Tbird232ci
01-31-2005, 12:48 PM
pulling the valve body isnt as bad as it seems, just be ready to be drenched by tranny fluid

EricCoolCats
01-31-2005, 01:02 PM
chiseled the mounting pad out of the floor using a screwdriver and a rock

Now THAT is some serious mofukin' dedication right thar! :)

vinnietbird
01-31-2005, 04:31 PM
To flip the lever,you don't have to pull the valvebody at all.All you have to do is pull the little pin in the case that keeps the lever in place,loosen the jamb nut,and flip the lever 180 degrees,then reverse the process.Now,to find the rod..................

cougarman
01-31-2005, 04:34 PM
To flip the lever,you don't have to pull the valvebody at all.All you have to do is pull the little pin in the case that keeps the lever in place,loosen the jamb nut,and flip the lever 180 degrees,then reverse the process.Now,to find the rod..................

That's how I did mine!! :grinno:

chrome302jr
01-31-2005, 05:11 PM
You are correct, you do not have to pull the VB to install/flip/remove the shifter lever. I'll tell you how Im getting around the hard to find floor shift components:

Im using a B&M Universal Megashifter which mounts directly to the floor. I also do not have to cut a huge hole in the tunnel because the shifter only requires the cable to go through the floor, so drilling a small hole is all that is required. The B&M shifter requires the AOD install kit which includes a new shift lever and bracket which bolts to the trans. The stock shift lever is removed by pulling the pan and pulling the pin holding it in. This wont be a problem because I will have my trans builder change them out when he is rebuilding the trans. :evilgrin:

MasterBlaster
02-01-2005, 06:37 AM
All you have to do is pull the little pin in the case
Ehhhhh... still sounds like too much work, and I'm tired. :sleep:

vinnietbird
02-01-2005, 09:33 AM
I already have the hole in the floor for my floor shifter.I'd like to keep the factory shifter.I've been leaving info with a lot of on-line salvage yards.No word yet.I'm starting to believe they only made 20 floor shifted T-Birds,and mine is one of them.